Tuesday, September 29, 2015

OROP : THE BEAT OF THE BUSH TELEGRAPH























                        OROP  : THE BEAT 
                                      OF 
                 THE BUSH TELEGRAPH




'Vinod Gandhi' via IESM_Group iesm_group@googlegroups.com

8:17 PM (5 minutes ago)


to IESMVCtbrigadierBrigMohanVVselfcolonelOROPJMRohitAtulColindianveterans




Dear Col Nair
We are seriously working to flood the Social media and have made a special cell to attack social media. Our reach is increasing by the minute. You seem to have misunderstood my message. You will be surprised that because of my mail of exorbitant cost of short film making, I have received offers from our own fouji kids and fouji brothers to help make films free of cost. We are exploring the possibility. 
At the same time we are also exploring the impact of fouji kids of bollywood visiting JM in support of  OROP.
We wish to tap all resources available to us

Regards
Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM
Gen Sec IESM
Flat no 801, Tower N5
Narmada Apartments
Pocket D6 
Vasant Kunj
Nelson Mandela Marg
New Delhi. 110070
Mobile   09810541222


OROP is our right. Dilution in OROP will NOT be accepted.
IF YOU SEE SOMEONE WITHOUT A SMILE GIVE HIM ONE OF YOURS.


  



Subject: Re: [indianveterans] Re: Fwd: {Thirteenians} RE: OROP-New Strategies to bring awareness and attention.


Dear Gen Secy-IESM,

Ref Your ;"We had been attempting to bring in bollywood and fouji kids to support our agitation.".

We have our own Children fighting for us by creating awareness alround through The F B Page called ;"DEFENCE SERVICES KIDS" about which I had sent a no of mails to both Veterans Gp and Tri- - - Gp. 

From our side much notice does not appear to have been given to it. They , on their own are going from Str to Str and have already crossed 2.5K mark in membership in less than 3 (Three) weeks, which incidently incl a few Lt Gens & a No of Maj Gens & equivalents who themselves are Def Kids. It is AN 'ALL RKS KIDS'GP' and are very active.

We Veterans  are trumpeted to be over 3 Million incl Veer Naris and it is safe to assume every family could be counted to have min 2 Kids which make it 6 (Six) Million Kids!!. Imagine the Force they can be particularly in the Social Media, if we were to request all our kids to join in this Gp. 

It is sad that we are NOT (NOT) willing to give them a fillip but are  suck on star gazing by latching on to Beauty Queens & Movie stars. Efforts in That Direction  should also go on but do give our own Children also a push to help them help us. I can't but feel we are treating them the way  the Babus are treating us, for Petre's Sake!!

May I request you to exhort ALL MEMBERS OF OUR GPS TO ASK THEIR Children TO JOIN UP as also post the news in their further respective gps like Gunners and the like please.

Fraternally Yours,

Col K V C Nair
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Posted by: Col K V Chandrasekharan Nair chandrasekharan nair <colkvcnair@gmail.com>

PLA : China’s Revolution in Doctrinal Affairs: Emerging Trends in the Operational Art of the Chinese PLA

SOURCE  :
http://www.defensegroupinc.com/cira/pdf/doctrinebook.pdf





       China’s Revolution in Doctrinal Affairs:

                          Emerging Trends
 
                                     in
 
             the Operational Art of the Chinese

                People’s Liberation Army


                                       PROLOGUE

                           David M. Finkelstein
 

The decade of the 1990s was a period of tremendous change for the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA). On nearly every front, this massive defense establishment was engaged in a myriad of reforms aimed at making it a more professional force in a corporate and institutional sense as well as a more operationally capable force. These changes affected every facet of the PLA—force structure, equipment, personnel reform, and yet another rectification of the defense research and development establishment, to name just a few.
 

Of particular significance, the 1990s was also a decade of tremendous doctrinal ferment. Having just spent the decade of the 1980s refining its approaches to combined arms operations, the PLA, throughout the 1990s, found itself impelled by observing external military events to rethink its own approaches to the operational art and the prosecution of campaign-level operations.
 
 
In particular, the performance (both successful and otherwise) of U.S. military forces and coalition partners throughout the 1990s, and the challenges faced by various developing militaries in the face of high-technology warfare helped to crystallize and refine the PLA’s conceptualization of what it terms “Local Wars Under Modern Hightech Conditions” (and with the publication of its December 2004 defense white paper, what they now refer to as “Local Wars Under Modern Informationalized Conditions.”) So too did the so-called “Revolution in Military Affairs,” much written about in the West and subsequently in China, also give PLA operations professionals and theorists cause for pause and self-reflection. Clearly, the emergence of a new type of warfare required a new type of operational doctrine.

At the same time, China’s changing assessments of its external security situation provided added impetus to the need for doctrinal change. China’s perception of it own changing security landscape during this period was highlighted by the need to enhance its ability to deter Taiwan’s drift away from the mainland. It was also influenced by an increasing distrust of U.S. intentions toward China, concerns about India’s ambitions as a rising regional power, increasing uncertainty over Japan’s evolving role in regional security and military affairs, as well as unresolved competing claims for maritime resources in the South China Sea with various Southeast Asian nations. All of these concerns and uncertainties underscored the need for a reexamination of PLA war fighting concepts in an age of high speed, high lethality, and high technology warfare.
 

Driven by these aforementioned capabilities-based and contingency-based requirements and assessments, the PLA set about to adjust its approaches to the conduct of operations. In 1999, after nearly a decade of study, research, and presumably experimentation in the field, a new and apparently large corpus of officially promulgated doctrinal guidance was issued under the collective title of “The New Generation
Operations Regulations” (xin yidai zuozhan tiaoling, 新一代作战条令).
 
 
 
As a result, it appears that the PLA intends to change how it thinks about the conduct of
campaign-level operations and adjust other supporting activities such as field training regimens, the curricula at institutions of professional military education, force structure organization, and personnel requirements.

 
 
In recognition of the ongoing “revolution in Chinese doctrinal affairs,” a two-day conference on the PLA’s changing approaches to the operational art was co-hosted by The CNA Corporation and The RAND Corporation in December 2002. The timing was right for a conference focused exclusively on changes in PLA doctrine on two accounts. First, by the year 2000, the potential significance of what had transpired doctrinally in the PLA was becoming evident to serious students of Chinese military affairs. Second, for most of the previous decade the PLA itself had generated a tremendous amount of professional literature on the subject, thus providing a more than adequate amount of data to justify serious explorations of the subject. The chapters that follow are the results of the conference.
There is still much that is not understood about the PLA’s ongoing doctrinal paradigm shift. However, as a body of scholarship, the papers in this volume offer a rich source of insight into the initial outlines of the PLA’s changing approaches to the conduct of operations. All of the authors used a body of professional materials published by the PLA in the original Chinese that represent some (but clearly not all) of the key writings to come out of this period of doctrinal reexamination. The papers likely represent the most current thinking on the PLA’s changing operational doctrine as can be found anywhere to this point in the English language.
What is unique about this volume is that it focuses on PLA doctrine at the operational-level of warfare—the very level of conflict at which the PLA itself has put its own emphasis in its new doctrinal literature. It is this level of warfare—the realm of campaigns—that provides the operational linkage between the strategic objectives of a conflict (the desired political-military end state) and the battles and engagements that define the tactical level of combat. It is at this level of conflict at which the operational art is practiced, at which campaign design is paramount, and at which the highest order of generalship is required to take carefully crafted and complex operations plans from the drawing boards to the various battle space dimensions and into contact with the enemy.
Of special note, we were especially fortunate, and honored, to have as our conference’s keynote speaker General Donn A. Starry (U.S. Army, Retired), former Commanding General of the U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command and one of the U.S. Army’s most prominent and influential doctrinal experts. As one of the “Founding Fathers” of AirLand Battle doctrine, and the driving force behind the Army’s watershed 1982 Field Manual, Operations (FM 100-5), General Starry provided much appreciated insight into the real world issues associated with what it takes to change a military’s doctrine as well as thoughtful commentary on the philosophical and intellectual aspects of thinking through such a complex endeavor.
 
It is our hope that the readers of this volume will come away with a greater appreciation for the sea changes that are underway in PLA operational thinking, an appreciation for PLA military science researchers and operations specialists as professionals in their own right, and an appreciation for the art of the possible in the field of Chinese military studies in the first years of the 21st Century.
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Monday, September 28, 2015

7 CPC : PRE 7CPC Now, Its AFS Versus Civil Bureaucrats ‘Remove Anomalies’ is the Demand

SOURCE :
http://www.gconnect.in/news/now-its-armed-forces-versus-civil-bureaucrats.html




Every IAS or IFS officer reaches apex scale because of NFU, the rules are different in armed forces. 99 per cent of military officers do not make it to the apex scale. For them, each pay commission would separately deter mine smaller pension raises.

    Now, Its AFs Versus Civil Bureaucrats

         ‘Remove Anomalies’ is the Demand

                                        By

                        

 

   September 22, 2015

Now, Its Armed Forces Versus Civil Bureaucrats – The armed forces want at least five “core anomalies” in their salary structures to be resolved to establish the “correct baseline” for recommendations of the 7th Central Pay Commission.

The still unresolved, one rank one pension (OROP) agitation has exacerbated the lack of trust between the military, on the one hand, and politicians and bureaucrats, on the other. In a double defeat for the government on the One Rank One Pension (OROP) issue, the Government will shell out at least Rs 18,000-22,000 crore for a settlement, but still leave most ex-servicemen grumbling.

Not to be left out, now the serving armed forces officers have approached the 7th Pay Commission again, to consider their demands. The armed forces want at least five “core anomalies” in their salary structures to be resolved to establish the “correct baseline” for recommendations of the 7th Central Pay Commission.

One of their main demand and grievance is the ‘Non-functional financial upgradation’ (NFFU). The IFS and IPS officers, as also those from organized Group A civil services, now get NFFU after the 6th Pay Commission like IAS officers. But the armed forces have been kept out of it, and they demand, ‘Give us NFU or remove the anomaly’.

A senior officer of the armed forces had this to say
 “This adversely impacts the morale of serving military officers. It also creates command, control and functional problems because even organizations that work closely with the military like DRDO, Border Roads Organisation, Military Engineer Service and the like get NFU, then why we are denied?”


Another officer on condition of anonymity had this to say, ” Every IAS or IFS officer reaches apex scale because of NFFU, the rules are different in armed forces, only a minuscule percentage of officers do reach the apex scale, say one or two per cent, is it justified?”  IAS and IFS keep getting promoted, regardless of merit and performance, he added.

Another demand is the placement of all Lt-Generals in the HAG+ (higher administrative grade) pay-scale like directors-general of police. As of now, only 33% of Lt-Gens are in the HAG+ scale. The status of all Lt-Gens with that of DGPs must be restored.
The other anomalies deal with the grant of “uniform grade pay” and proper “initial pay fixation” of Lt-Colonels, Colonels and Brigadiers. There is also the need for all JCOs (junior commissioned officers) and soldiers to get “common pay scales”, in the backdrop of the ones recruited before January 2006 not getting them.

Another senior officer said, “The civilian Bureaucrats have the advantage of NFU and they automatically get OROP. It’s high time the historical and traditional parity was restored”.

Will the 7th Pay Commission heed to their demand? Given the circumstances, it is a very big question!  The civil Bureaucrats by virtue of having by far the highest percentage of superseded personnel, say that it makes poor economic sense. They feel that the armed forces keep on making more and more demands when they already get a lot of privileges from free rations to hugely-subsidized canteens. “Military officers and jawans already get ‘military service pay’ for their tougher working conditions. The demand for NFU is unrealistic,” said a senior bureaucrat.

However, the armed forces are undeterred. They are now making a last-ditch attempt to get the anomalies rectified by the 7th Pay Commission.

Source: The Times of India
 

 

 


 


OROP & ITS BY PRODUCT : Bypassing Conventional Media is a established norm now

SOURCE  : http://www.arabnews.com/columns/news/811831


             OROP  & ITS BY PRODUCT  : 

           Bypassing Conventional Media
                                       is
                    a Established Norm Now






Bypassing Conventional Media Could Become Norm  is an understatement, by passing conventional media is a established norm now & the same has been acknowledged by Mr Modi at  FACE BOOK in California on 27 Sep 2015 & full credit goes to  black out of OROP movement by the established conventional Media which has got a bleeding  dirty RED NOSE now because of medium of  Social Media

   OROP HAS GROWN & HAS NO NEED FOR  COWARDLY CONVENTIONAL INDIAN MEDIA,  INDIA's FIFTH COLUMN, WHICH CANNOT HIDE NOW BEHIND THE SMOKE SCREEN OF
                     ' CHAMPIONS 
                                OF
                FREEDOM OF SPEECH'.

BLOODY  MEDIA COWARDS,  THE UNDEPENDABLE  FIFTH COLUMN 
                                                 Vasundhra

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


Bypassing Conventional Media Could Become Norm

                   By

BIKRAM VOHRA

Sunday 27 September 2015


With supreme fatigue having set in on the One Rank One Pension (OROP) issue no one is really interested in the media about carrying anything on it. Unless one of the fasting ex servicemen cops it or there is a bonfire of the vanities and they burn their citations of bravery or hand back the medals, the party, as far as the TV and Press are concerned, is over, time to move on to tilt at other windmills.

It’s just a bunch of wrinkled uncles in white pajamas who have overstayed their welcome.


[ Is it so? Obviously the conventional media has been browbeaten by the Government threats ]

Curiously though, the major snub given the vets by Indian media per se and their deliberate ho hum turning of the back to the Ekta rally earlier this month in which 50,000 ex servicemen and their families displayed an impressive solidarity, has opened another front.

It is only the innate arrogance of the fourth estate that stops it from figuring out that there is an enemy and the enemy is at the gate.

The vets took the publicity blackout punch on the chin, realized that no mikes were now going to be thrust at them in a frenetic ‘push and shove’ that had marked the early days of the protest and so, like the soldiers they still are, developed their own strategy.

Let’s go to the people and use the social media platforms, we don’t need the conventional press.


This could well be one more push in a global changeover where the conventional Press is made redundant.


Everyone of the OROP leaders I have spoken to says it may not set the Jamuna on fire but the word is spreading. The first signature campaign gathered 35,000 supporters inside two hours and is now a legitimate legal document that can be forwarded to the government.


It strikes me that the TRP race and the inward looking press and TV band of journalists might just be facing a future siege, a sort of Alamo without the heroics.

The conceit is so tangible in our ranks that no one would even consider social platforms as a threat. But with bloggers more interesting and erudite than professional writers, the public involvement in issues intensifying and the chance for the individual to express himself sans interference is a heady elixir.

 The speed of delivery then makes for a deadly combination.


Anybody can be a writer and a dispenser of news and opinion. With very little editorial control or accountability.

The advent of the trolls who grasp any report on the websites and ignite verbal wars laced with malice is now an incontrovertible part of the scenario.


The adhesive which is still needed is a sense of organization and it is fair to concede that the OROP call may not achieve its goals at such an early stage but it has set into motion an alternative messenger. The geometric progression of 100 people sending forward a chain letter concept in the morning can reach hundreds of thousands by evening. Before you know it there is not just a groundswell of public opinion there is a visible reaction.


It is a sobering thought that it was Twitter and Facebook that accelerated the Arab Spring in Egypt and for a high density population like we have in India getting the nation to stir its conscience and come to bat for a cause is not difficult at all. Youtube is widely seen as a major element in the impact on US politics.


The Governor of Vermont Howard Dean was the pioneer for political activism through social media. He changed the paradigm on mobilization of numbers, accelerated fundraising and gave the likeminded their focus.


Remember the Oscar Morales saga where the Colombian citizen took on the guerrillas engaged in kidnappings and used Facebook to generate a global uproar that actually resulted in the release of a victim.


How rapidly a report on social media can spread can be seen by this rendition. A retired soldier spoke to the throng. He started by saying he was the father of not one, yes not one, but two martyred sons. He asked the Hon’ble PM (with reference to his foot-in-mouth public remark that he’d given OROP at the cost of the poor) what he need to further prove his loyalty to the nation? To stifle spontaneous cries of ‘Shame, Shame’ he declared that if the PM publicly proved that he indeed needed to deprive the poor to give OROP, he didn’t want it.


How many parents have given two sons in uniform and stayed on earth to mourn them?

The pass on effect was intense.



The problem is that the intensity is no different for rumors, half truths, mischief and prejudice. That is the scary part.


IT IS ESTABLISHED NOW



COWARDLY CONVENTIONAL INDIAN MEDIA IS  INDIA's  FIFTH COLUMN ON THE PAYROLL OF THE HIGHEST BIDDER






 

OROP - Protest: Gul Panag Appeals To PM Modi, Asks Him Not To Break Veterans' Moral






GUL PANAG

OROP Protest: Gul Panag Appeals To PM Modi, 

Asks Him Not To Break Veterans' Moral

Updated: 






NEW DELHI -- Actress and AAP leader Gul Panag today alleged that despite Prime Minister Narendra Modi's "light clarification" on the One Rank One Pension issue, there is still ambiguity left over the Voluntary Retirement Scheme (VRS).


Panag, daughter of retired Lt Gen HS Panag, appealed to the government to "unconditionally" fulfil OROP promises the way soldiers serve the nation, as she claimed that veterans were actually given "One Rank Five Pension".


She was addressing the war veterans, who have been protesting for over 100 days at Jantar Mantar.
Panag alleged that the government's Voluntary Retirement Scheme (VRS) is a non-entity as there is nothing voluntary about it. She said that despite the Prime Minister giving light clarification over the issue, there is still ambiguity related to VRS.
"Even if you take premature retirement, you do so after completing your pensionable services and that is also because the country wants to keep their Army, Navy and Air Force young.


"But you can be recalled anytime for five years and even when you apply for VRS, whether or not you get it now or after four years is not in your hands," Panag, who contested Lok Sabha polls on an AAP ticket, said.


On September 6, a day after the government announced implementation of OROP, Modi had said some people were trying to "mislead" the armed forces, particularly on the issue of premature retirement.


"Jawans in the army have to retire after 15-17 years of service. A few people think they will not get OROP....they are misleading you by terming it as VRS (voluntary retirement scheme)....

"But if anybody gets OROP, jawans will be the first.... Those injured, those who had to compulsorily leave they will get OROP. And the Prime Minister who loves the army cannot even think of depriving such people of OROP benefits," Modi said at a rally in Faridabad.


Panag asked the government to fulfill the promises "completely".

"When a soldier pledges his life to protect his country, he does it fully without any conditions and this is what we expect from the Prime Minister also, that the promise he made to us, he should fulfil it completely, not without any conditions.
"What the government has given in the name of One Rank One Pension is actually One Rank Five Pensions," Panag said.

The former beauty queen also said that when the Prime Minister speaks of giving a befitting reply at the country's border, it is these soldiers who put their life at risk to guard the borders.

"When the PM says that 'mooh tod jawab diya jayaega' (befitting reply will be given), who does this? It is the soldiers who are deployed full time at the borders, and these soldiers would be ex-servicemen tomorrow. The PM should not break their faith and morale," she said.

The AAP leader also asked why the Defence Minister had not sent out any government notification regarding OROP even three weeks after the announcement was made.

Panag also sought to correct those who call the OROP a sentimental issue, saying that those who join the defence services do it for their passion for the nation and not as any other job.