Saturday, October 31, 2015

OROP ::#MumbaiOROPRally - OROP AT MUMBAI


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                      OROP ::#MumbaiOROPRally

                 -  OROP AT  MUMBAI













  2.  3 hours ago
    great presence of Bikers.


    Bikers at Azad Maidan. Legendary biker, Col Sohan Roy a Guinness Book Record holder
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  5.  5 hours ago
    Way to go the heavy mortars (60 Heavy). BLAST THEM


    with dad veteran '65 '71
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  9.  6 hours ago
    Wonderful reporting Joe.


    Iam at Azad Maidan to support Indian Armed Forces Veterans. Are you?
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  11.  6 hours ago
    Bikers, across India, as a fraternity ride in solidarity with the veterans. God Bless!


    in comes the cavalry
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  12.  6 hours ago
    I am informed that the strength is much much more than originally thought of. Speaks of a "just" cause.
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  13.  6 hours ago
    Overwhelmed to see the response.


    Col Pushpendra , Hav Major Singh at Rally site.
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  14.  8 hours ago
    Looking forward to meeting ex servicemen of Maharashtra. It has large ESM population and will be briefed on
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  18.  19 hours ago
    if govt is so serious, why no discussion with veterans n assurance that 7 anomalies removed?
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  20.  22 hours ago
    Tomorrow is 139th Day of Relay of Hunger Strike at JantarMantar. I will be at AzadMaidan Mumbai. Govt- Any surprises?
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  21.  Oct 30
    The Cruel Truth
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  22.  Oct 30
    I have advised Govt in past to be absolutely transparent before issuing notification. Why secrecy?
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  23.  Oct 30
    Mumbaikars, awake and be there at Azad Maidan, my countrymen.


    Everyone is invited at Azad Maidan Mumbai at 11 am tomorrow. WE WILL BE THERE.
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  24.  Oct 30
    Every pan India Rally sends a direct message to India and World- resolve gets stronger each passing day.
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  25.  Oct 30
    Tomorrow is 139th Day of Relay Hunger Strike at JantarMantar and I will be at AzadMaidan Mumbai. Govt- Any surprises?
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  27.  Oct 30
    What instructions has Govt passed to handle Mumbai Rally? Blackout Media? Spread Rumours? Use force? Can do anything.
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  28.  Oct 30
    Veterans deserve better. Support them to the fullest. Mumbai rally tomorrow.
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  29.  Oct 30
    They gave their present for your future. Give your time to them now.


    Come in support of Veterans who gave up their today for our tomorrow.
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  30.  Oct 30
    Not one minister has visited Jantar Mantar. Azad Maidan Oct 31 11am. Pls support veterans.

    0:27

    24 Months back..."MIL BAITH KAR RAASTA NIKALTE"
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  31.  Oct 30
    What the true Orop is and what the govt is delivering.


    What was promised and what is delivered.
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  32.  Oct 30
    Sec 144 or not all those attending or prevented please tweet your experience/ impressions tomorrow. Pl also post in fb.
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  35.  Oct 29
    Section 144 promulgated in Mumbai. We are informed that OROP Rally in Azad Maidan on 31 Oct at 11 am has not influenced it.
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  36.  Oct 29
    on 31 Oct at Azad Maidan at 11 am will demonstrate the resolve of veterans to bring forth the continued apathy of Govt.
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  37.  Oct 28
    Pls come in support of our veterans


    Show your support. Date: 31st Oct (Sat) Venue: Azad Maidan Time: 11 AM-1 PM …
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  38.  Oct 28
    Yo Mumbaikars! Here's your chance to support your military veterans. Attend on 31 Oct. Pl RT and help spread the word.
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  40.  Oct 28
    before elections..bhaiyo is my top priority after elections.. Not showing face to vetrans
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  41.  Oct 28
    Amen


    hi all well wishers, We expect you at Azad maidan on 31 Oct to make our rally a memorable one.
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  42.  Oct 28
    Yes! Please use in all your tweets. This is the official hashtag till the 31st
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  43.  Oct 27
    Azad Maidan 1100 hrs October 31.


    This will live to fight another day to stay alive for his please note 3/3
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  45.  Oct 27
    Please spread the word ... show solidarity to the ones who have protected you. Rt ...


    Appeal to everyone.Use Hashtag " "only. Massive social media team deployed in Mumbai.
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  46.  Oct 27
    Hope mny civilians will join our veterans. Mumbaikars let's stand together fr our defenders!!


    Get ready for a massive show at Mumbai on 31 Oct.
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  47.  Oct 27
    Appeal to everyone.Use Hashtag " "only. Massive social media team deployed in Mumbai.
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  48.  Oct 27
    AZAD MAIDAN, 31 OCT, 11AM. Understand why veterans are on road. जिस देश का सैनिक सडकों पर, उस देश का दुर्भाग्य है
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Friday, October 30, 2015

OROP :: Award Wapsi Spreads to Armed Forces

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Women In Combat Roles: Should The Army Follow The Air Force?

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Women In Combat Roles: Should The Army Follow The Air Force?



Syed Ata Hasnain
Lt. Gen Syed Ata Hasnain (Retd) is the former Corps Commander of the Srinagar based 15 Corps, and is currently associated with Vivekanand International Foundation and the Delhi Policy Group, two major strategic think tanks of Delhi

The Air Force’s  decision to induct women into its fighter wings will put pressure on the Army and the Navy. Here is a take on the Army and how it could look at the demands
It is a fine decision indeed. The decision to induct women into the fighter wing of the IAF is a momentous one; one more bastion broken. Its implementation is to be almost immediate, with induction of a few trainees currently undergoing training for other flying duties. So effectively in line with some other countries, including Pakistan, Indian women will have the opportunity to deliver munitions against aircraft or ground objectives and destroy them. That means they are into the business of killing or being killed and that is a transformational change. Air Chief Marshal Raha needs to be complimented for his stewardship of this final decision.
While a few celebrate and women all over India absorb this good bit of news, the inevitable question that will arise is when will it happen in the Army and the Navy. Is a combat role possible there?
I have been one of those who have been writing extensively on the subject and have always maintained an even balance in my perception, laying out all the factors, issues of concern and limits which will affect the final decision. No doubt the IAF decision must be kept in mind, but the relative environment is completely different.
As fighter pilots, WOs will no doubt be involved in extensive team work but at the actual point of combat a pilot is single and master of the platform in use. Individual expertise in handling technology is relevant as much as retention of mental faculties to be a part of the team effort. The physical danger is high.
In the Army, a decision to induct WOs in combat role implies them being a part of the Combat Arms ( Infantry, Armored Corps and Mechanized Infantry) and Artillery; they are already a part of the Combat Support Arms; Engineers, Air Defence Artillery and Signals besides being with the Services; ASC, EME and AOC. They receive permanent commission into the JAG and AEC. WOs have been deman
ding for some time extension of their services to the Combat Arms so that they have a frontline leadership role in combat and management of all other connected aspects of operations, logistics and administration. Their right to demand this cannot be denied. 

The debate on this must be an informed one and deserves to have all the factors squarely laid out to arrive at some conclusions which are without any emotions or other baggage. To the Army’s credit, during the tenure of General Bikram Singh, former COAS, a serious effort towards understanding the nuances was made in the form of a comprehensive study by the HQ South Western Command. This was discussed at length but fell short of a final decision.
For public information it is important to know briefly what the Combat Arms and Artillery do in an operational environment. That will help in creating an informed opinion. The modern day Infantry (foot soldiers) does just about everything; its prime task is to close in with the enemy and physically destroy him in combat, capture and thereafter hold ground. It means long marches through physically demanding terrain and under threat, with loads and battle gear up to 30 Kg and then being in a position to assault, fight and win. Unit battles can last for 48 hours or more.  
In defensive operations, the task is to hold a piece of ground as part of a system of defence, withstand severe artillery bombardment and then be ready to repulse the attack by the enemy through physical means. Despite the severe punishment that an Infantryman suffers the officer has to be in a position to inspire his men and lead by example and direction. The Mechanized Infantry does almost a similar job except that it is all in the plains, desert or riverine terrain (Ladakh plains too) and the approach to a point near the objective is mounted, in semi-protected armored vehicles (ICVs).
The Armored Corps (tank corps) uses semi-protected platforms with a large amount of armament to engage the enemy’s tanks and destroy them. Tanks are vulnerable to tanks, aircraft, anti-tank missiles and even artillery guns of a certain caliber. They are operated by three/four man crews and a number of tanks make up sub-units and units which are commanded by officers. That is where WOs will have to be; in command of 3, 14 or 45 tanks and more. It is exhausting, terribly stressful, needs flexible minds and demand robustness.
Artillery fires shells of various calibers from a distance behind the frontline but officers and men are required to be upfront with troops to direct the fire accurately; so young officers in particular are where the Infantry/Mechanized Infantry or Armored Corps are, right in front. An artillery officer has to experience both the gun end and observation end to be proficient.
On the face of it WOs can do any of these jobs provided they have the ability to physically withstand the rigors of combat and more importantly continue to retain their mental balance, and decision making ability under severe stress. In my experience I have come across WOs from Engineers and Corps of Signals who could give male officers of the Infantry a run for their money.
There are three reservations that most of us have. Firstly, can women spend long hours/days alone with male troops in the field? I have seen dozer detachments of the Engineers with WOs sleeping on the deck of their machines for weeks altogether.
Secondly, can they lead by example under stress or will they be liabilities in crunch situations?
Thirdly, would we wish our WOs to ever be in situations such as Lt Saurav Kalia was in May 1999 in Kargil? The answer to the last two is that even male officers are known to buckle so if you have the best of the best WOs in such roles their performance may just about be better.
So I am all for experimentation but with such stringent norms that the most daring of women find it difficult to qualify. Special psychological tests would require to be drawn up for this. We need to start gingerly after all it involves lives and we can’t be playing games with that. Let us be start with the Artillery and graduate to the Armoured Corps. If a woman can fly a fighter aircraft she can fire a Bofors gun and drive and fire a T-90 tank. However, the standards could be such that only the best of the best WOs should only make it to the hallowed Arms.
The implications are for us to understand and take decisions. Women in Combat Arms would be like others, on Short Service terms. The moment you open it up for permanent commission you would have legal issues of progression and promotion. That would mean command of Combat Arms open to WOs. I am not sure I have reached that level of emancipation in my thinking. 

For the casual reader let me explain. 

The Indian Army is a command oriented Army; essentially that means that promotions are based upon your ability to command troops. If WOs are inducted into Combat Arms they will have small sub units (from 30 to 120 men) to command but by the fifteenth year of service they will come up for promotion to Colonel (by selection) when they could have anything from 600 to 1200 men under command with equipment of different shades.
That is the stepping stone of experience which qualifies you for higher ranks but equally is the rank and appointment where the buck stops; the hallowed rank of the Commanding Officer (CO). If the Army does decide to induct WOs into Combat Arms this is the decision which will be most important because permanent commission appears to be a foregone conclusion. Legally the directions exist and we have an awkward situation where the litigation goes on and WOs have crossed the 20 years of service mark.
So let me not glove my take; let it be taken to the cleaners. At least you need something to start a discussion/debate instead of the clichéd ideas to which we stick. Take a bold decision. Keep the numbers very small, the selection norms extremely stringent. Don’t bother about slow breaking in by appointing WOs as staff officers in Combat Arms units. Go for the kill and induct into field areas also.
Let them be troop leaders and battery second in commands. Based upon the experience over three or four years, decide about the Infantry and Mechanized Infantry. I consider these synchronous in task content and the last bastion should be decided upon after more thought. The issue of command should be debated extensively. I am not sure that this is something the WOs are going to break into very easily.  
















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RELIGION : Simply put: What the ongoing crisis in the Sikh Panth means

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Simply Put: What the Ongoing Crisis 

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                         Navjeevan Gopal 


| The Indian Express – Thu 29 Oct, 2015


What is the institution of Panj Pyare?

Panj Pyare (Five beloved of the Guru) is the name given to five baptised Sikhs who perform the Amrit Sanchar (baptism) ceremony to initiate Sikhs into the order of the Khalsa (Pure). The institution came into being in 1699, along with the Khalsa Panth itself. On March 30 that year, Baisakhi day, Guru Gobind Singh, the tenth Guru of the Sikhs, ended a stirring oration to thousands of followers at Anandpur with a call for sacrifice. It is said that one by one, five men offered their heads to the Guru, who took them to a nearby tent, emerging alone on each occasion, his sword dripping with fresh blood. As a hush fell over the gathering, Guru Gobind Singh presented the five men before them, all hale and hearty, wearing garlands and similar attire. The Guru initiated them into the Khalsa, after which they baptised the Guru. These five men — Bhai Daya Singh, Bhai Dharam Singh, Bhai Himmat Singh, Bhai Mohkam Singh and Bhai Sahib Singh — were the first Panj Pyare, an institution that has occupied a unique place in Sikh religion and history ever since.

How are the Panj Pyare chosen now? Where do they draw their authority?

The set of Panj Pyare at the centre of the current crisis are employees of Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC), the apex representative body of Sikhs, and the custodian of gurdwaras in Punjab, Haryana, Himachal and Chandigarh. They are granthis (ceremonial readers of the Guru Granth Sahib) who are chosen from among baptised Sikhs who know the five baanis — Japji Sahib, Jaap Sahib, Sawayae, Chaupai Sahib and Anand Sahib — that are recited during the Amrit Sanchar ceremony that the Panj Pyare perform at the temporal seats of Sikhism. Though appointed by the SGPC (or individual gurdwara management boards) with no fixed tenure, the Panj Pyare draw their authority from the institution itself — they represent the Guru Panth. Besides performing Amrit Sanchar ceremonies, the Panj Pyare also lead religious processions.
Who are the five high priests?
The high priests, or Jathedars, head the five temporal seats (Takhts) of Sikhism — the Akal Takht (the highest temporal seat) in Amritsar, Takht Keshgarh Sahib in Anandpur Sahib, and Takht Damdama Sahib in Talwandi Sabo (all in Punjab), Takht Patna Sahib in Patna, and Takht Hazur Sahib in Nanded. The Akal Takht is headed by Giani Gurbachan Singh, Takht Keshgarh Sahib by Giani Mal Singh, Takht Damdama Sahib by Giani Gurmukh Singh, Takht Patna Sahib by Giani Iqbal Singh, and Takht Hazur Sahib by Giani Kulwant Singh. The SGPC controls the three Punjab Takhts, and appoints their high priests; Jathedars of the other two Takhts are appointed by their respective management boards. SGPC president Avtar Singh Makkar is also president of the Takht Patna Sahib Management Board. Tara Singh, a BJP MLA in Maharashtra, is president of the Takht Hazur Sahib Board. Giani Kulwant Singh rarely attends the meetings of the high priests, and is represented by the head granthi of Takht Hazur Sahib.

Why are the high priests and Panj Pyare in the news now?
On October 16, the five high priests revoked an earlier decision (made on September 24) to exonerate Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh, head of the Dera Sacha Sauda, of charges of blasphemy. The controversial chief of the Dera had allegedly dressed up as Guru Gobind Singh in 2007. As resentment mounted against the decision to grant him pardon, the high priests reversed their order.
On October 21, the Akal Takht Panj Pyare, who as an institution have great moral authority, issued a Gurmatta — a resolution made by consensus in the name of the Guru and in the presence of the Guru Granth Sahib — to summon the five high priests to explain their flip-flop. It was an unprecedented escalation — and the SGPC cracked down within hours, suspending the Panj Pyare for their “self-styled act” that had done “damage to Panthic tradition” and was “not tolerable”.
But the Panj Pyare remained unfazed. They met on October 23, and after none of the high priests appeared at the Akal Takht in response to the summons, directed the SGPC to terminate their services. Two days later, as SGPC climbed down, revoking the suspension of the Panj Pyare “unconditionally”. The Panj Pyare have maintained throughout that as an institution, they cannot be suspended.
On October 27, four of the five Panj Pyare were sent outside Punjab for Amrit Sanchar.
How does the crisis affect the politics of the SGPC and Shiromani Akali Dal (SAD)?

Three of the five Sikh high priests are appointed by the SGPC, a majority of whose 190 members owe allegiance to SAD. Since the other two high priests generally have no dissenting notes, the decisions of the top clergy are perceived to carry the stamp of the SAD. The Panj Pyare’s summons to the high priests and direction to the SGPC to sack them are unprecedented — and threaten to put the SAD in a difficult situation as far as pulling strings to get Panthic decisions for electoral benefits is concerned.

So what do the SAD and the Badal family stand to lose if the crisis continues closer to the Assembly elections?

The SGPC has attempted damage control by revoking the suspension of the Panj Pyare, but is yet to take a call on the Gurmatta seeking termination of the services of the high priests. Sacking the high priests will establish a precedent of the Panj Pyare exercising their authority, and inevitably dilute the control of the SAD over the SGPC and, ultimately, over the decisions of the Akal Takht. On the other hand, disobeying the Gurmatta would amount to rejecting the authority of the Panj Pyare, which will invite the anguish of the Sikh community. Since the Panthic community is the SAD’s core constituency, the party faces a Catch-22 situation. The longer the deadlock stretches, the more it will hurt the SAD.

And what is in store for the high priests?
The clamour for their ouster for pardoning the Dera chief is growing. The Badals are accused of having scripted the pardon for electoral gains — the Dera is seen as controlling a huge votebank. Slogans have been raised against the Akal Takht chief amid demands for his resignation; he has also been called “paapi” (sinner). Many see the revocation of the suspension of the Panj Pyare as a sign of the SGPC preparing the ground for the ouster of the high priests.
















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Thursday, October 29, 2015

OROP :: DAY 137 OF RHS - 29 OCT 2015

















OROP  ::  DAY 137 OF RHS  -  29 OCT 2015





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