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Sunday, May 8, 2016

ADDITION : COUNTING OF PREVIOUS SERVICE TOWARDS PENSION



                      
ADDITION  : COUNTING OF PREVIOUS

          SERVICE TOWARDS PENSION


Further to my recent post, 

  http://bcvasundhra.blogspot.in/2016/05/orop-counting-of-previous-service.html      

  this may interest all those who had served as ORs before getting commissioned.






Dear Sir,
 
In this would like to draw your attention to GOI letter--

 No.
​ ​
1(1)/2007-D (Pen/Pol)
 Government of India 
 Ministry of Defence
 Department of Ex-Servicemen Welfare 
 New Delhi

Dated 20th May 2009 and even No. Letter Dated 03rd Sep 2009.
 
 In the first letter dated 20/05/2009 in para 2 (ii) it is very clearly given " full pre-commissioned rank service for working out the qualifying service for determining the revised pension subject of fulfillment of other conditions."  
 
With Regards 

Capt GC Agarwal 

07/05/2016



Friday, May 6, 2016

OROP : COUNTING OF PREVIOUS SERVICE TOWARDS PENSION


               OROP : COUNTING OF PREVIOUS                   SERVICE TOWARDS PENSION


No.Sangam Cell/complaint/Officer/2016
 
: 27/04/2016

To

Capt. M.G. He~e (Retd)

No. 24, Sena V har

Kammanahali ain Road

Bengaluru-56 3
 
 

SUB: - Issue of Corr PPO in respect of Capt. M.G.Hegde (Retd).

Ref:- Grievance No. DOPPW/E/2016/3151 dated 12/04/2016.
 
Kindly refer to your letter No. dated 02-03-2016 with PCDA(P)Grievance No. G-15880 dated 19/04/2016. In this connection it is intimated the Qualifying service in the
6th CPCCorr PPOwill be issued as under:-
 

 




(1) As per AO 56/2001 para (I) states that in the past there was a provision for counting of pre-commissioned service in the ranks of the Armed Forces and civil department of Govt. of India towards pension of permanent commissioned officer. Prior to 01 July 1966, only one half of such pre-commissioned service was being counted for pension. It was raised to two third
w.e.f. 01/07/1966 and full w.e.f. 01/07/1986.

(2) The issue of counting pre-commissioned service was revised by the fourth central pay commission and Govt. of India issued orders for counting of full pre-commissioned service on or after 01/01/1986, vide Note No.(4) under para 5 of Govt. of India ,Ministry of defence letter No.1(5)/87/D/(Pen/Sers) dated 30/10/1987 which reads as follows.

The weightage is auto calculated as per the table under Cir No. 500. Hence No separate information is required to be given. The same will be available on the Public domain of the PCDA(P) Allahabad/Govt of India letter No.1(6)/1998/D(Pen/Ser) dated 30-20-1998.

Your contention of all the case of pre-01/01/1996 case will be dealt as per order on the subject i.e. Prior to 01/07/1966 Qualifying service of OR will be V2 of the gross OR qualifying service to commission service. After 01/07/1966 and up to 31/12/1985, 2/3rd of the qualifying service, and from 01/01/1986 full qualifying service will be added to the commissioned service.
In your case you have retired on 10/04/1979. Hence the net qualifying service to be added in the cornrnissioned service is 2/3rd of gross OR service (i.e. 2/3rd of 07years 05 month ll days= 4 years ll month 21days)
 
Encl! : As above k-Sq..- .

AO(SANGAM CELL)

 
 
N.O.O.

Copy  to:-

Brig. C 5 Vidyasagar(Retd) Pr sident TSEWA

Regt No. 495/2015,Register f socy, Hyderabad

Plot No.16, Bajrangnagar Copy
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 



 
 
 



 
 
 
 
 



Saturday, November 28, 2015

7CPC :: Further Degradation of Armed Forces by Bureaucrats.

SOURCE ::
CURTSEY
 https://www.facebook.com/ammu.ahlu/posts/10205506663247895






           Further Degradation of Armed Forces
                       by Bureaucrats.
                                RD


How Do You Justify? The 7CPC .....



The Chairman of the Commission, in his acknowledgement states that, “Shri D.K. Rai, a young officer from Accounts and Finance stream who had a deep insight into the financial matters especially, the defence. His knowledge about defence finance has been of great help to this Commission in determining the pay structure for the defence forces.”


Isn’t it perplexing and absolutely against the high principles of righteousness, that the future pay structure of 13.86 lakh combatants was decided largely by an officer from Account and Finance stream, who was considered as an expert with deep insight in matters relating to defence services. Isn’t it strange, that while the successive pay commissions acknowledge the sheer magnitude of our armed forces, the uniqueness of its service conditions, and complexity of the operating environment and yet, while they decide their fate, they rely on officers with accounts and finance background? Why couldn’t the Chairman, not have at his disposal, just one out of the 66,690 officers that serve the Defence forces, to help him determine the future pay structure of defence forces? More so, when the word “defence” occurs on 255 pages of the report? And if officers of the account services have indeed such insights, then why can’t they do the needful for all other central government services, and the members from the Indian Administrative Services be spared such onerous responsibilities? Why is it that the Commission’s organization, as stated on Page (i) of the report, which details 45 honourable members, starting from Justice Shri Ashok Kumar Mathur, Chairman, to ShriInder Lal Singh, SCD, does not include a single military mind? Is it about keeping the military at a distance from the process of decision making? Or is it that the military’s understanding of its own pay structures is suspect and others know better about military’s requirements?


The second argument that needs debate is that the Commission has utterly failed in its task of identifying the real frustrations that lie heavy on a common military mind and has therefore been unable to deliver a fair pay and allowance package that the Indian defence forces so richly deserve. Like in case of the first argument, the Commission was apparently aware of the issues at stake. In Para 1.19 of the report the Commission states that “person should not stagnate but should have fair opportunity to progress by dint of merit and secure better emoluments so that frustration does not set in.”But sadly, as it went on with the process of evolving the military pay structure, it apparently ignored it.


The anomalous understanding of the situation is apparent from the reading of the Para 6.2.19 of the report which states that:

“The post VI CPC pay structure marks a complete departure from the earlier Pay Commissions as far as the pay parity between civilian and defence service officers is concerned. Not only has the starting pay of a defence officers been placed substantially higher at 29 percent more than his/her civilian counterpart, this gap continues to remain wide at over 20 percent for the first nine years of service. In fact the pay of defence service officers remains uninterruptedly higher for a thirty-two year period. Thereafter pay of defence and civil service officers are at par.”


The last part of the aforesaid contention is very easily contestable, and is in fact the core issue which frustrates the defence community. The fact of the matter is that the civil servant rises to be a Joint Secretary in about 17-18 years of service while the military man may still be a Lieutenant Colonel or equivalent. So the whole equation changes rather dramatically in the seventeenth year of service. Moreover, the military officer in all majority of cases, starts receiving pensions in about thirty years of service, or sometimes even less. So howhas this “uninterrupted edge for thirty-two years” been worked out? Many can play with figures and facts, but what is required is to give the military the right compensation, both on account of their service conditions and the pyramidal nature of their organization.While each of the successive pay commissions have promised to deliver this, but facts on ground have always been otherwise. Two brief illustrations, from many available in the current recommendations, are appended below in support of the argument.


The first illustration relates to risk. The Commission, in Para 8.10.67 of the Report, itself acknowledges that “no government employee faces more Risk/Hardship in his work than our Defence officers and jawans posted in Siachen Glacier. Hence, no RHA can have a value higher than this allowance.” The rate recommended is Rs 31,500 pm for Level 9 and above and Rs 21,000 pm for levels below. However, while discussing Special Duty Allowance (SDA)in Para 8.17.115, the Report states that the SDA is “granted to attract civilian employees to seek posting in North Eastern and Ladakh regions, in view of the risk and hardship prevailing in these areas.” The allowance has been recommended to be be paid at the rate of 30 percent of Basic Pay to the All India Services officers. What it implies is that if an defence forces officer with say 19 years of service, serves in Siachen Glacier, he will be receiving a risk allowance of Rs 31,500 pm, while his colleagues from the All India Services with equal length of service, and serving in North Eastern or Ladhakh region will draw an allowance of more than Rs 54,000 pm. Is this dispensation aligned to the high principles of righteousness talked about earlier in the report?An officer of the All India Service will certainly never be posted within the North East or Ladakh in places of hardship and risk akin to where the defence forces are deployed. But he/she will be compensated at a much higher rate!Two other clear anomalies emerge with this allowance – one, the SDA is not listed underAllowances related to Risk andHardship (Chapter 8.10), rather under Other Allowances (Chapter 8.17) ; two- the SDA is linked to basic pay, ensuring uninterrupted growth, while its step-brotherly Risk & Hardship Allowances are rather constant, growing at 25 % upon increase of DA to 50%?Is this dispensation of allowances to the brave men who risk their lives in the most inhospitable terrain obtaining in the world, aligned to the high principles of righteousness?


The second illustration also relates to the oft quoted but never given parity between the civil and defence pay structure. A simple comparision of Pay Matrix for civilian and defence employees for Level 13A can prove very helpful. Both levels deal with the erstwhile grade pay of Rs 8900 pm. However, in the new pay matrix the civilian officers in Level 13A have been given a rationalization index of 2.67, but their military counterparts have been given a rationalization index of 2.57 only. Which simply implies lower pay fixation for military officers in comparision to their civilian equivalents in Grade Pay. The report attempts to justify this disparity in the most unacceptable manner in Para 5.2.8 and Para 5.2.9 of the report.


Whatthe justification implies is that - since the Lieutenant Colonels were well compensated by the VI Pay Commission, arationalisation index of 2.57 was applied for them (Level 12 A). The Major Generals in Level 14 have been equated with their civilian counterparts and a higher rationalization index of 2.72 has been applied to them, in recognition of significant higher degree responsibility and accountability. And then, realizing that the Colonels and Brigadiers, were also to be dealt with, the commission felt appropriate that they be kept at a distance from the SAG and therefore fixed them at parity with the Lieutenant Colonels at 2.57 only. Do Colonels and Brigadiers not have higher degree of responsibility and accountability, just because there are no All India Services equivalents for their ranks? Doesn’t this reflect a total gap in understanding of the command and staff assignments that the Colonels and Brigadiers hold?


Grant of a fair pay and allowance package to the defence forces, which takes into account of their service conditions, operational environment, pyramidal structure, early retirement ages, is something which a democratic government should earnestly strive for and is a mandatory prerequisite for building a strong and resilient nation. The Central Pay Commission needsto be conscious of this fact but also needs to ensure that this requirement translates into actuals, at all costs. And, this can happen only when the military participates in the exercise.
As personally viewed by Ms Neetu Singh.

Have a nice day.

RD
















Friday, November 27, 2015

7CPC :: DEPRESSION OF TOP END OF PAY IN THE PAY MATRIX FOR DEFENCE PERSONNEL PROPOSED BY 7CPC





UNITED FRONT OF EX SERVICEMEN (ESM)


                                                                                                                                                27 Nov 2015 

DEPRESSION OF TOP END OF PAY IN THE PAY MATRIX FOR DEFENCE PERSONNEL PROPOSED BY THE SEVENTH PAY COMMISSION

Dear Veterans,

          Letter to Hon’ble Raksha Mantri and three Chiefs regarding “Depression of top end of pay in the pay matrix for Defence Personnel proposed by the Seventh Pay Commission is enclosed herewith for your information and widest circulation please.

With regards,

Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen Satbir Singh, SM (Retd)
Advisor United Front of Ex Servicemen & Chairman IESM
Mobile: 9312404269, +0124 4110570
Email: satbirsm@gmail.com

........................................................................



UNITED FRONT OF EX SERVICEMEN (ESM)
URGENT ATTENTION OF RM

                                                                                                                                                                           27 Nov 2015 
Shri Manohar Parrikar                                                                                                        
Hon’ble Raksha Mantri                                                                                                                  
104, South Block, New Delhi

DEPRESSION OF TOP END OF PAY IN THE PAY MATRIX FOR DEFENCE PERSONNEL PROPOSED BY THE SEVENTH PAY COMMISSION

Hon’ble Raksha Mantri,

1.       Running pay band was awarded first time to the defence officers by the Fourth Pay Commission. This was done to give some relief on account of lesser/slower promotions in defence service as compared to the civil service.

2.       The Fifth Pay Commission withdrew the provision of running pay bands and reverted to the old system of separate post/rank based pay scales.   

3.       The Sixth Pay Commission again introduced the running pay bands for not only the defence personnel but also the civilian personnel, though these were specifically meant for the former due to their lesser/slower promotions.  For the military personnel they gave in addition, the Military Service Pay (MSP) to give a differential edge thus doing justice to an extent. DA was given on the MSP. MSP was also counted for the HRA, transfer grant etc.

4. Surprisingly, the Seventh Pay Commission has withdrawn the running pay bands and reverted to the old system of post/rank based pay scales in the form of pay matrix.

5. The Seventh Pay Commission has depressed the top end of the pay band/scale for the defence personnel as is evident from the pay matrices (enclosed as annexure II & III to this letter). This will result in lower pay and pension for the defence personnel especially those with longer service/going on superannuation, in comparison with that of the civilian counterparts. Depressing the top end of the pay will result in lower pensions.

6. The Seventh Pay Commission has effectively reduced not only the basic pay at the top end but also the total pay (basic pay + MSP) of defence personnel in comparison with the civilian counterparts thereby not only negating the advantage of the MSP awarded by the 6th Pay Commission but also lowering the overall pay, as can be seen in the illustrations below:-


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7.       Almost all Civilian officers of Group A service are now retiring in the payscale of Addtl Secy/Lt Gen (HAG). In comparison, less than one percent defence officers reach this rank. Nearly 80% of them retire in the rank of Colonel at the age of 54.  Similar facts hold good for the JCOs/NCOs/ORs Thus withdrawing the running pay band and depressing the top end of the pay is a serious loss to the defence personnel as can be seen in the table (annexure I).
8.       7th Pay Commission has also recommended that the MSP will not be counted for HRA, transfer grant etc. as is the practice now. This is again a derogatory step.

9.       The pension of the veterans will be based on the pay matrix recommended by the Pay Commission. It is therefore very much essential that the shortcomings in the pay matrix be removed. It is requested that the anomalies mentioned in the foregoing may be addressed to prevent injustice to the guardians of the nation both serving as well as retired.

10.     However, more than 40 anomalies of 6th CPC had not been resolved.  The 7th CPC has further degraded/downgraded Military.    In this connection letter written to three Chiefs dated 21 Nov 2015 and other connected documents are enclosed herewith.

11.     For immediate positive consideration please.
With regards,

                             Yours Sincerely,

Maj Gen Satbir Singh, SM (Retd)
Advisor United Front of Ex Servicemen & Chairman IESM
Mobile: 9312404269, +0124 4110570
Email: satbirsm@gmail.com


Copy to :-

General Dalbir Singh
PVSM, UYSM, AVSM, VSM, ADC
Chief of the Army Staff                                         -
Integrated HQs of Ministry of Defence (Army)
South Block, New Delhi-110011

 You are requested to jointly and strongly take up the issue
with the Govt. Please refer our letter dated 21 Nov 2015.

Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha
PVSM, AVSM, VM, ADC                                           -
Chief of the Air Staff &
Chairman Chiefs of Staffs Committee (CoSC)
Integrated HQs of Ministry of Defence (Air Force)
Vayu Bhawan, New Delhi 110011


Our request as above.


Admiral R K Dhowan, PVSM, AVSM, YSM, ADCChief of the Naval Staff
Integrated HQs of Ministry of Defence (Navy)        -
South Block, New Delhi -110011


Annexure I

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Annexure II


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Annexure III


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