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Thursday, July 2, 2015

OROP :Defence Matters: ‘One Rank One Pension’ Quandry

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Defence Matters: ‘One Rank One Pension’ Quandry

                               By

           Lt Gen Harwant Singh (retd)

 Jun 29, 2015


The resolution of ‘one rank one pension’ (OROP) has been hanging fire for close to three decades. The issue arose because of the gross injustice done to the defence services in a range of areas concerning their pay and pension as compared to civil services. Right from the time the demand for OROP was projected, every conceivable ploy has been deployed by successive governments to stall the case.



Now, when this issue is expected to be finally resolved, some hearts in the government have started bleeding for the soldier and have come up with the observation that in this OROP, soldiers stand to gain very little as compared to officers. Where were these ‘bleeding hearts’ all these decades when a soldier was persistently and grossly discriminated against?


Till about the fifties, a defence services retiree drew 70% of his last pay drawn as pension, whereas a civil employee’s pension was 30% of his last pay drawn.

Higher pension for defence personnel was due to their rather early retirement and extremely limited promotion avenues, leaving aside the travails of military service. The government reduced the pension of defence services retirees from 70% to 50% and jacked up that of civilian employees from 30%to 50%. This was done without any justification as there was no change in the employment parameters of the two set of employees.


To earn full pension, that is, 50% of the last pay drawn, an employee has to serve for 33 years. But in the case of army, over 85% are compulsorily retired before that length of service. Later, dispensation of 10 years was given which was subsequently increased to 12 years. Even with this dispensation, 80% of military personnel do not get 50% of the last pay as pension. In their case pension works out to approximately 37% of the last pay drawn. It has been a simple case where you compulsorily retire a soldier after 17 years’ service and then tell him that he cannot get full pension because he did not serve up to 33 years.


LATEST MOVE

The latest move has been to instigate some directors general of central police organisations to contend before the Union home minister that the grant of OROP to defence personnel would lower the morale of their police personnel. One has to be a complete moron to weigh in the same scale the one who retires at 60 with another who is compulsorily retired at age 34-37 (even ignoring all the travails of military service) and then demand principle of parity in pensions, based on OROP.


Yet another ploy to delay and perhaps deny OROP is a crude attempt to create some rift between officers and soldiers, when the government alleges that it is the officers who stand to gain more than soldiers. This is being done by highlighting the gap in the increase in pension in the case of officers and that of soldiers. False and mischievous as it is, it has all the portents of creating serious problems in officer-man relationship in the military. Such false projections will greatly harm military as a cohesive and potent force.


Equally in this mischief the babu is deliberately concealing some pertinent facts. What is not being adequately explained is that on July 1, 2008, and again on September 24, 2012, as a sort of modified OROP, pension of only other ranks was increased, while officers (other than Lt Gens) were left out. However, in their case, the increase in their pension should have been from 2006, rather than from 2008. Unfortunately, successive governments have been given to cheating and cutting corners when it comes to defence services personnel’s entitlements.

So the aim to now rig up this issue of lesser increase for soldiers compared to officers is to put one more spanner in the works. These ‘bleeding hearts’ who have suddenly come alive should rather pitch in for waiving 33 years’ conditionality to earn 50% of the last pay drawn as pension, in the case of soldiers. This is what the top brass of the defence services must pitch in for.

They owe this to their soldiers.



SUGGESTION BY FM

Now, notwithstanding the clarity brought about by the Koshyari Committee of Parliament, the finance minister has come up with yet another suggestion of a base pension for each rank and an additional amount for each year of service, in lieu of OROP. He seems to propose that all this be put before the 7th Central Pay Commission (CPC) to work out the details. He is merely further muddying the waters.


The Koshyari Committee had opined that payments be made from April 1, 2014, till the award of the 7th CPC was announced. Thereafter, the salaries of the serving personnel may be fixed by the 7th CPC and consequently pensions of defence personnel will follow as per rules. However, in all fairness, the 7th CPC needs to restore the differential of pension as existing prior to the 3rd CPC, which affects the largest number of exservicemen. The increase in civilian pensions and decrease in pensions of defence personnel was patently unjustified and against all norms of justice.



























 

O R O P :Delay in OROP Implementation Could Affect Morale of Soldiers

Source:
http://www.hindustantimes.com/analysis/delay-in-orop-implementation-could-affect-morale-of-soldiers/article1-1364959.aspx








Delay in OROP Implementation Could Affect Morale of Soldiers

                                        By
                          Gurmeet Kanwal

     Jul 01, 2015



The fast for justice being held by India’s ex-servicemen at Jantar Mantar in New Delhi and in over 50 other cities has now entered its third week. The protesting veterans are demanding the rollout of the One Rank One Pension (OROP) scheme, which has not been honoured by successive governments.

The quest of the veterans for OROP, a term coined by a Parliamentary committee headed by KP Singh Deo in 1983, goes back several decades.

 In 1973, while implementing the recommendations of the Third Pay Commission, the government reduced the pensions of armed forces personnel from 73% of the last pay drawn to 50%.


The concept of ‘military pension’, designed to provide monetary compensation for truncated service due to early retirement, was diluted. Soldiers, sailors and airmen opt to retire between 35 and 37 years of age when most of their family responsibilities are still ahead of them, while most of the officers retire at the age of 54.



Despite their discipline, dedication and talent, they find it difficult to get jobs.


Personnel in the Central Armed Police Forces (CAPFs) like the BSF, CRPF, ITBP, CISF, SSB and the state police retire between the ages of 57 and 60 years.

The Fifth Pay Commission had recommended that armed forces personnel be laterally transferred to the CAPFs after five to seven years of service.


This would enable the armed forces to maintain a young profile and reduce the pension bill of the government.

However, the government of the day lacks the political will to push through this win-win measure.



Officers of the CAPFs and all other civilian officers (IAS, IFS, IPS, IRS) retire at the age of 60 years, while only 0.84% of armed forces officers make it to the rank of major general, who retire at 58. A still smaller number are lieutenant general and retire at 60.

Incidentally, every IAS officer is routinely promoted to the position of joint secretary, considered equal to a major general. 


The national consensus favours the implementation of OROP for the armed forces. The Congress-led UPA government gave a commitment to implement OROP and even allotted a sum of Rs 500 crore in the interim budget for FY 2014-15. Union finance minister Arun Jaitley doubled it to Rs1,000 crore when he presented the budget in July 2014.


Prime Minister Narendra Modi unequivocally promised to implement OROP while addressing the veterans at an election rally at Rewari in September 2013.

 However, in a surprise to 25 lakh veterans and three lakh widows, the prime minister recently said that it was a “complex” issue and that there were several definitions of OROP.


                   [ ( MARK MY WORDS 

           " MODI  IS  A  NAVTANKI " ) ]

                                                                 - Vasundhra


Veterans, however, agree to an unambiguous definition of OROP. In February 2014, the following definition of OROP was approved in a meeting chaired by the defence minister: “OROP implies that uniform pension be paid to the armed forces personnel retiring in the same rank with the same length of service, irrespective of their date of retirement and any future enhancement in the rates of pension be automatically passed on to the past pensioners.”


The recommendations made by the defence minister, in consultation with the chiefs of the armed forces and the veterans, are reportedly being opposed by the finance ministry on the grounds that the annual cost of Rs8,400 crore is unaffordable and that a similar demand may spring from the CAPFs. It appears that the issue might be referred to the Seventh Pay Commission for a ‘holistic’ overview.

Often, the personnel in CAPFs serve much longer than the ones in the armed forces, which means that they earn more increments and therefore must not be equated for pension. The additional expenditure on OROP is less than 10% of the pension bill of Rs88,521 crore for 2015-16, which is much less than other subsidies.

 
           

Hence, the recommendation of referring the issue to the Seventh Pay Commission is seen as an insidious plot to scuttle the OROP scheme.



Civil-military relations in India have a troubled past and any attempt to indefinitely delay a long-pending welfare measure will only aggravate the situation.



As it is, the serving and retired members of the armed forces feel wronged at having been deprived of their dues in several cases in the past, including the ‘rank pay’ case, 36 pending anomalies in the implementation of the awards of the Fifth and the Sixth Pay Commissions, and the withholding of non-functional upgradation (NFU) of pay for officers denied promotion for lack of vacancies.

Also, the ministry of defence has repeatedly appealed against the court judgements that favour the veterans and soldiers’ widows — often contesting that the award of paltry sums, even as the cost of litigation exceeds the amount at stake.



The government must take note of the impact of the prolonged delay in the implementation of OROP on morale — not only of the veterans, but also of the serving soldiers; it may also affect many second or third generation soldiers who are witness to the sad plight of those before them.

The day a soldier takes his oath, he undertakes to selflessly serve his nation and even make the supreme sacrifice when necessary. He swears allegiance to Naam, Namak, Nishan and has never faltered.




In turn, the nation’s covenant is that no effort will be spared to look after his welfare and that of his family. Addressing the United States servicemen some years ago, US President Barack Obama said,


“…when you take off the uniform, we will serve you as well as you’ve served us — because no one who fights for this country should have to fight for a job, or a roof over their heads, or the care that they need when they come home.”



Indian veterans also need to be given a similar assurance, but one that is credible. 
  
Gurmeet Kanwal is an army veteran and a Delhi-based strategic analyst

(The views expressed are personal)  


                     BUT  ARE  BITTER  TRUTH 

                                                            -Vasundhra

OROP :'One Rank One Pension' Row: Ex-servicemen Prepare Battle Plan to Take Government Head On

Source:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/one-rank-one-pension-row-ex-servicemen-prepare-battle-plan-to-take-government-head-on/articleshow/47889302.cms




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'One Rank One Pension' Row: Ex-servicemen Prepare Battle Plan to Take Government Head On

Wednesday, July 1, 2015

O R O P : OPS MAHASANGRAM SEVENTEENTH DAY







Anil Kaul
July 1 at 5:50pm
 
Dear Sir/ Ma'am,

The seventeenth day of the relay hunger strike. The fasting at Jantar Mantar continued today with 45 volunteers from Punjab,Haryana, UP & Delhi undertook relay hunger strike. The strength at Jantar Mantar today was 250 with 50 officers present. 11 veteran General officers and their ladies sat in support of OROP. PTROTEST MARCHES WERE CARRIED OUT AT ALL DISTRICTS OF kERALA, West Bengal & Karnataka. by members of NEXCC a constituent of UFESM. A delegation of ESM marched to and presented a memorandum to the DM's of Dindigul in Tamil Nadu and Halar District of Gujarat..Similar activities were reported from 60 cities across the country.




The names of the General Officers, some with their wives who observed RHS today are: -
Lt Gen's SS GREWAL, JBS YADAV, HARI UNIYAL, AK SAINI, & Maj Gen's BS DHILLON, PL SOORMA, RN WADHWA, VK TIWARI, SURJIT SINGH & SATBIR SINGH. 



One day Rally was held in Takluka Chikodi, District - Belgaum on 29 Jun 2015 under the guidance of Hony Capt Thitagudbi and Cpl BM Sangroli. The ESM and Veer Naries, numbering about 1,200, gathered in the main ground and took a procession to the Tehsildar's office where they handed over the Protest Letter expressing their anger about the failure of the Central Govt in issuing the notification of OROP implementation. The participants came from all villages of Chikodi.



The presence of Shri Rajeev Chandrashekhar, an Independant MP of Rajya Sabha at the site of the RHS at Jantar Mantar will act as a great morale booster for the veterans. 



  Col Anil Kaul, VrC Veteran
Media Advisor & Spokesman
UFESM  




                                                      Hindi Version



प्रिय सर / मैडम,



रिले भूख हड़ताल के सत्रहवें दिन। जंतर-मंतर पर उपवास भूख हड़ताल रिले चलाया पंजाब, हरियाणा, उत्तर प्रदेश और दिल्ली से 45 स्वयंसेवकों के साथ आज भी जारी रहा। जंतर-मंतर पर शक्ति आज 50 अधिकारियों वर्तमान के साथ 250 था। 11 दिग्गज जनरल अधिकारियों और उनकी महिलाओं के OROP के समर्थन में बैठ गया। PTROTEST मार्च बिल्कुल केरल, पश्चिम बंगाल और कर्नाटक के जिलों से बाहर किए गए। NEXCC के सदस्यों UFESM के एक घटक के द्वारा। ईएसएम के एक प्रतिनिधिमंडल के लिए मार्च किया और देश भर में 60 शहरों से सूचित किया गया है कि तमिलनाडु और Gujarat..Similar गतिविधियों की Halar जिला डिंडीगुल के डीएम को एक ज्ञापन प्रस्तुत किया।
जनरल अधिकारियों के नाम, आज आरएचएस मनाया जो अपनी पत्नियों के साथ कुछ इस प्रकार हैं: -
लेफ्टिनेंट जनरल के एस एस ग्रेवाल, जे बी एस यादव, हरि उनियाल, एके सैनी, और मेजर जनरल के बी एस ढिल्लों, पीएल SOORMA, आर.एन. वाधवा, वीके तिवारी, सुरजीत सिंह व सतबीर सिंह।





मानद कैप्टन Thitagudbi और कारपोरल बी.एम. Sangroli के मार्गदर्शन के तहत 29 जून 2015 पर बेलगाम - एक दिन रैली Takluka Chikodi, जिले में आयोजित किया गया था। ईएसएम और वीर Naries, के बारे में 1200 नंबर, मुख्य भूमि में एकत्र हुए और वे OROP कार्यान्वयन की अधिसूचना जारी करने में केंद्र सरकार की विफलता के बारे में अपने गुस्से को व्यक्त विरोध पत्र सौंपा जहां तहसीलदार के कार्यालय में एक बारात ले लिया। प्रतिभागियों को Chikodi के सभी गांवों से आए थे।

जंतर-मंतर पर आरएचएस के स्थल पर श्री राजीव चंद्रशेखर, राज्य सभा की एक स्वतंत्र सांसद की उपस्थिति दिग्गजों के लिए एक महान मनोबल बूस्टर के रूप में कार्य करेगा।

कर्नल अनिल कौल, वीर चक्र वयोवृद्ध
मीडिया सलाहकार और प्रवक्ता
UFESM
 

O R O P : JCOs NCOs & ORs OROP BE PAID AT SEVENTY PERCENT

SOURCE:
http://www.gconnect.in/defence-services/one-rank-one-pension-may-not-increase.html?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzEmail&utm_content=408382&utm_campaign=0

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/behind-orop-delay-worry-about-small-hike-for-jawans/





                    SARKARI  DISINFORMATION
                             REFER  TO

  ( http://bcvasundhra.blogspot.in/2015/06/orop.html )
                   


                    OROP MADE EASY


   O R O P :  FOR JCOs NCOs & ORs
OROP BE PAID AT SEVENTY PERCENT


THE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM NARRATED BELOW IS SIMPLE.  FIX THE PENSIONS OF JCOs, NON COMMISSIONED OFFICERS (NCOs) & ORs TO  70 PERCENT ON THE PRINCIPLES OF OROP. THIS WAS WHAT IT WAS PRIOR TO 1973. OFFICERS NO CHANGE AT 50 PERCENT. -Vasundhra






Present One Rank One Pension Scheme may not increase Army Personnel’s Pension much – As per News Paper reports Govt is delaying OROP on the apprehension of Protest by Ex-Servicemen



One Rank One Pensio may not bring much increase in pension for jawans - news paper reports
 
 

Behind One Rank One Pension scheme delay, worry about small hike for jawans

MoD sources said that the main reason behind the delay is the minuscule increase that jawans may get if OROP is implemented in its present form.

 
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The fear within political decision-makers is that OROP, if implemented in present form, may result in many dragging the government to courts, and may even create a political crisis. (Source: PTI)
 
 
As ex-servicemen steadfastly press for the implementation of One Rank One Pension (OROP), top Ministry of Defence (MoD) sources have said that the main reason behind the delay is not funds, but the minuscule increase that jawans may get if OROP is implemented in its present form.
 
 
 
 
Sources said that the concern within the government is that the jawans may get an increase of just about “few hundred” rupees per month — a raise that may not justify the decade long OROP agitation. 
 
 
 
           The fear within political decision-makers is that OROP, if implemented in present form, may result in many dragging the government to courts, and may even create a political crisis. “It is no longer a budgetary concern. The formula to arrive at Rs 8,300-odd crores has already been approved. The real worries within South Block are political. Under the present formula, the jawans may just get about few hundred rupees of increase per month in their present pensions. This amount, the political class within the present government believes, is too small to pacify the agitation that has been spread over almost three decades,” a top Defence Ministry official said. 
 
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According to the official, the implementation — which is just short of being announced any moment, may trigger dissatisfaction and will result in soldiers dragging the government to courts and become a political issue. Citing the reason behind the small increase for jawans, the official said: “The government, in 2009, corrected the pensions of retired armed forces personnel to parity as per Sixth Central Pay Commission.
 
 
The jawans largely benefited out of the correction as the pension amounts increased. So the gap that earlier existed has largely been bridged. Rs 5000 crore has already been spent on bringing about the parity,” the official said. According to Indian Ex-Servicemen Movement (IESM) data, OROP — if implemented in its present form — will ensure an increase of between Rs 525 and Rs 1,720 to jawans in their monthly pensions by virtue of percentage of their low basic pensions. Widows will get a hike of Rs 1,500 per month. The officers are likely to get a per month pension increase between Rs 10,000 to Rs 20,000.
 
 
 According to sources, UPA too was worried about the political and legal consequences of these “relatively small” monthly increments after implementing OROP and had carried out “three rounds of equalisation” to work out a solution.
 
 
 
The MoD official said that so far, the present government, though committed, has not carried out any such equalization.
 
 Group Captain V K Gandhi, general secretary, IESM said, “Our present demands have been agreed upon not only by officers but even by jawans. We are not willing to accept any dilution in the demands.”
 
 
     
 
As ex-servicemen steadfastly press for the implementation of One Rank One Pension (OROP), top Ministry of Defence (MoD) sources have said that the main reason behind the delay is not funds, but the minuscule increase that jawans may get if OROP is implemented in its present form.
 
 
Sources said that the concern within the government is that the jawans may get an increase of just about “few hundred” rupees per month — a raise that may not justify the decade long OROP agitation.
 
 
The fear within political decision-makers is that OROP, if implemented in present form, may result in many dragging the government to courts, and may even create a political crisis. “It is no longer a budgetary concern. The formula to arrive at Rs 8,300-odd crores has already been approved. The real worries within South Block are political. Under the present formula, the jawans may just get about few hundred rupees of increase per month in their present pensions. This amount, the political class within the present government believes, is too small to pacify the agitation that has been spread over almost three decades,” a top Defence Ministry official said.
 
 
According to the official, the implementation — which is just short of being announced any moment, may trigger dissatisfaction and will result in soldiers dragging the government to courts and become a political issue. Citing the reason behind the small increase for jawans, the official said: “The government, in 2009, corrected the pensions of retired armed forces personnel to parity as per Sixth Central Pay Commission.
 
 
The jawans largely benefited out of the correction as the pension amounts increased. So the gap that earlier existed has largely been bridged. Rs 5000 crore has already been spent on bringing about the parity,” the official said. According to Indian Ex-Servicemen Movement (IESM) data, OROP — if implemented in its present form — will ensure an increase of between Rs 525 and Rs 1,720 to jawans in their monthly pensions by virtue of percentage of their low basic pensions. Widows will get a hike of Rs 1,500 per month. The officers are likely to get a per month pension increase between Rs 10,000 to Rs 20,000.
 
 
According to sources, UPA too was worried about the political and legal consequences of these “relatively small” monthly increments after implementing OROP and had carried out “three rounds of equalisation” to work out a solution.
 
 
The MoD official said that so far, the present government, though committed, has not carried out any such equalisation. Group Captain V K Gandhi, general secretary, IESM said, “Our present demands have been agreed upon not only by officers but even by jawans. We are not willing to accept any dilution in the demands.”
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Tuesday, June 30, 2015

O R O P :What is One Rank One Pension मामला पेचीदा है






                                                              






                                                                       मामला  पेचीदा  है 

                                         इस  पेंशन  पर
 
   लेबर  चौक  तेरा  ही  सहारा  दो  पल  रोटी के लिए 
 
- वेटेरन जवान  की  दुखी  आत्मा 








30 minutes: What is One Rank One Pension and why our soldiers truly deserve it


 
 
One Rank One Pension (OROP): Ex-servicemen begin hunger strike at Jantar mantar in Delhi
 
 
 
 
One rank, one pension: Modi promises to implement during his govt.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
BUT STILL WHY  OROP
&
 
IF  U  STILL HAVE  STAMINA
 
 
 
 
 
Saare Jahaan Se Mehnga 
 
NARENDER MODI
 KA
 OROP VAIDA
 
 
 
 
 
(  ONE HOUR &  FORTYSIX MINs))
 
 
The story is a hilarious and satirical take on Mehngai(inflation) through a middle class family from a small North Indian City. The family, crushed under the burden of inflation tries to deal with it through an ingenious idea, not realizing the problems they would get tangled into as a result of it. This film is a hillarious journey of this family battling issues culminating into a climax that brings tears into your eyes.
 
 
इस  पेंशन  पर
 
   लेबर  चौक  तेरा  ही  सहारा  दो  पल  रोटी के लिए 
 
- वेटेरन  की  दुखी  आत्मा 
 
 
  मामला  पेचीदा  है 
 
 

O R O P : OPS MAHASANGRAM SIXTEENTH DAY










                                   O R O P :
 OPS MAHASANGRAM  SIXTEENTH DAY


Indian Ex Servicemen Movement
 
   
   
 

 
   
Anil Kaul
June 30 at 7:35pm
 


Dear Sir/ Ma'am, The sixteenth day of the relay hunger strike. The fasting at Jantar Mantar continued today with volunteers from Punjab and Haryana. The strength at Jantar Mantar today was 230 with 46 officers present. 11 veterans including an officer conducted RHS.


PTROTEST MARCHES WERE CARRIED OUT AT ALL DISTRICTS OF kERALA by members of NEXCC a constituent of UFESM. Similar activities were reported from 60 cities across the country.



Reports of burning of PM 's effigy in Batala and blocking of roads in Agra have been received by UFESM. Besides this the raging anger is becoming palpable as more reports of contemplated action are trickling in.Though these methods of protest are outside the line of implementation of our struggle at the moment but for things to go out of hand would not take too long if the delay and prevarication on the announcement continues.It may be considered in pyrely military terms as "Early Indicators". 




UFESM has noted with concern the use of the term PBOR in various correspondence . This is not an acceptable abbreviation and will cease to be used forthwith. The correct description is JCO's & Other Ranks or JCO's & OR's. The accepted norm of address across the three services.
 




A mail received from an 80 year old veteran is reproduced below : -




" Dear Gp Capt Gandhi, Our agitation totally overshadowed by CONG and AAP agitation against Govt No media coverage, media gaged by govt. Dr Babu MP from Andhra says people join Armed Forces for free Booz and Mutton. Shameful statement by an elected member of parliament. What is our next step. I was there for conclave, rally on 14th and on Saturday to be with those on relay hunger strike, shall be with U all soon. I am closing on to 80 but will not hesitate to sit with my fellow veterans as and when U ask me to do so May God grant us success warm regards

                                                  - Gen Bhalla"
Col Anil Kaul, VrC Veteran
Media Advisor & Spokesman
UFESM












 

Sunday, June 28, 2015

OROP : THE IDEA OF OROP





                       THE  IDEA  OF  OROP


   I  BELIEVE, IN THE  'SATTA BAZZAR' OF BOMBAY HEAVY BETTING IS ON WHETHER  'OROP' WILL BE IMPLEMENTED OR NOT BY HON'  FINANCE MINISTER.

HON'  MINISTER IS BEING CONSTRAINED BY BABUs NOT TO CONSIDER THE 'IDEA OF OROP'  EVEN ON THEIR DEAD BODIES

               THE REASON FOR PANIC IS.............

 DAUD IBRAHIM HAS PLEDGED Rs 8296/- Crore  AGAINST THE TOTAL REQUREMENT OF  Rs 8297/-  Crore PROVIDED   Sh JAITLEY PROVIDES Rs 'ONE CRORE'


 BABUs ARE INSISTING THAT JAITLEY SHOULD  NEGOTIATE AN AFFORDABLE AMOUNT LESSER THAN  Rs ONE CRORE.

IT IS BELIEVED MATTER HAS BEEN REFFERED TO THE PMO FOR ARBITRATION


 

O R O P :Important Caution to Military Veterans & Service HQ handling OROP with Babus








BABUS HAVE SUCEEDED IN FOOLING THE FM ABOUT OROP
                                  and
 IN TURN THE PRIME MINISTER

REPORT MY SIGNAL
28 Jun 2015
Dear Veterans,
Jai Hind.
 
The email below, from Lt Gen SK Bahri, will shock all the veterans.
 
I personally feel that the RM is giving Defence Services and the ESM maximum possible support; the obstructions are the Babus, The FM and miss guided by them The PM.
We should now think in terms of bringing the PM online by repeatedly reminding him of his pre-election and post election promises; he should sort out the FM and his Babus.
 
Please do not forget – one of the Defence Secretaries, more than a decade ago, had said “OROP over my dead body”. All Babus now think on the same line.
Babus will stoop down to any extent to fool misguide the FM and PM about OROP.
 
In service of Indian Armed Forces Veterans & Families
Chander Kamboj



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From: Satish Kumar Bahri [mailto:skbahri1@yahoo.com]
Sent: 28 June 2015 12:45
To: Manohar Parrikar
Cc: COAS Sectt; CNS; CAS; Mahalingam Venkataraman; Gen VK Singh
Subject: Fw: Important Caution to Military Veterans and Service HQ handling OROP with Government
 
Dear Mr Defence Minister,
 
Reference the trailing mail from Brig Mahalingam.
 
A few days ago a team, including me, from IESM met the FM due to the kind courtesy of Gen VK Singh. Col Rajyavardhan Rathore was also present. During this meeting the FM came up with the suggestion of a base pension for each rank and an additional amount for each year of service, in lieu of OROP. We asked him as to how and who will fix the base pensions, to which he said that the 7th CPC could do it. He also offered that he would accept a retd Lt Gen as a member in the CPC. We insisted that this should not be done, as firstly, pensions as per the Koshyari Committee be paid from 1/4/14 till the award of 7th CPC is announced. Thereafter, the salaries of the serving personnel may be fixed by the 7th CPC and consequently our pensions will follow as per rules. We would however, like that the 7th CPC restores the differential of pension as existing prior to 3rd CPC, which affects the largest number of ESM. The increase of civilian pensions without a corresponding increase in our pensions was patently unjustified and against all norms of justice.
 
Secondly, as the FM had offered to include an officer from the Services, I feel we should push for it even though it is late. The advantage would be that we could be warned by him of any underhand deals being done by the bureaucrats, to our disadvantage. We should also insist that we be not classified as shudras and be equated with the Class A services. You being the appointed guardian of the Defence Forces have a duty towards them, which you have been executing very well so far. So please continue.
 
Thirdly, the demand of CAPF is a red herring intended to muddy the waters, so that the government can put hurdles in resolving the issue of OROP.
 
With warm regards.
 
Satish Bahri
Lt Gen SK Bahri PVSM
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Gurgaon 122001
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Important Caution to Military Veterans 
                  &
Service HQ handling OROP with Babus
 




 
Dear All,
 
"Military Pension" is a concept devised by the bureaucracy with some intent. The concept must be viewed with caution by the leaders of the Veteran’s community presently engaged with the Government on the issue of OROP.
As it seems, the nomenclature of the proposal suggests that the Government is likely to lay down a Pension Band like the present Pay Band. The point that is likely to be missed out is, equating the pension of the Veterans of the past with the pensions of soldiers retiring from service today with equivalent rank and service. As a result the Pension Band is likely to be much below the Pension applicable to personnel of the same rank and length of service retiring today.  The implication would be, even if the pension band, say for a Brigadier retiring with 25 years of service is Rs 2000 per month with an increase of Rs 25 for every 6 months increase in service, it would fit in with the definition of OROP. In other words, the Pension Bands may be delinked from Last Pay Drawn.
 
The bureaucracy may be banking on cashing on this interpretation to circumvent OROP. Once announced the Government will go whole hog to mislead the general public to claim that the Veteran’s demands have been fully met as the pension from then on would be same for persons of the same rank with same service irrespective of their date of retirement. .
It appears to me that instigated claims of CAPFs demanding OROP, the JCOs and OR getting less increase due to OROP etc. are being generated to create friction amongst ranks and files of the army as well as the Veteran’s community. It would also enable the Government to create a belief amongst the civil population that OROP indeed is a complicated process. On this very pretext of allegedly being able to examine the issue of OROP comprehensively to include CAPF and other Police Forces, the issue may be palmed off to 7th CPC. The larger aims and approach of the Government (read bureaucracy) explains the delay in implementing OROP.

If you study this carefully, it may be a sinister plan something similar to the 3rd CPC. This will reduce the pension of the present retirees delinked from their Last Pay Drawn. In the long run, the pensions of the Defence Community will be hit very hard.
 
The purpose of writing this mail is to caution those handling the issue including the Service HQ of the likely pit falls. Even after the Government makes the announcements, the experts from the Veteran’s community and the Service Headquarters need to study the letter carefully before claiming success or expressing happiness over the issue.
 
 
We should remember how the Rank Pay was skirted even after the Government letter was issued.
 
Incidentally, along with OROP, we need to insist that a rep from each service and the Veteran’s community need to be included in the committee working out the details of the scheme. It is time the Service HQ and the Veteran’s community also insists that similar representation is accepted in the 7th CPC before it is too late to mend things.
 
I sincerely hope and pray that my assessment is totally wrong and misconceived. I would be happy if the Government proves me wrong by implementing OROP, the way it was conceived and perceived.
 
Regards,
 
Brigadier V Mahalingam (Retired)