Thursday, September 10, 2015

FORTY YEAR WAR OROP : Counter View: OROP, Bungled Promises And Warped Goodwill

SOURCE:
http://swarajyamag.com/politics/counter-view-orop-bungled-promises-and-warped-goodwill/


DISBAND MINISTRY OF DEFENCE
          'LOCK STOCK & BARREL'.
                    APPOINT CDS
                               AND
MAKE ARMED FORCES STAKE HOLDERS IN  NATIONAL SECURITY WITH CDS AS                       CONSTITUTIONAL BODY
              DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE
                                    TO
          THE PARLIAMENT OF INDIA
                                                                                                      

      - Vasundhra









                 Counter View: OROP,
 Bungled Promises And Warped Goodwill
                                    By
                 Lt  Gen Prakash Katoch



Speaking at Faridabad on September 6, Prime Minister Narendra Modi announced that those taking voluntary retirement also will be eligible to OROP. One wonders if he realized that after 15-months of inter-ministerial deliberations, insertion of the VRS clause was anything but bureaucratic mischief. Especially, since VRS does not exist in the military.

Had VRS existed, perhaps half the military would have gone for it considering the political and bureaucratic apathy that the military has been subjected to over past several decades by all governments. Just the number of personnel from Special Forces who took pre-mature retirement in the last 10-15 years because of such apathy would shock the public. That the number would have been much more but for the cap on how many can leave is a separate issue.


While announcing OROP, the Defence Minister, reading from a prepared script though flanked by the Service Chiefs, apparently had little idea about the implications of announcing that personnel taking voluntary retirement would not be eligible to OROP – indeed a sad state of affairs. His body language anyway indicated he had been stumped by the financial pundits.


In military, pre-mature retirement can be sought without completing minimum pensionable service or after completing minimum pensionable service. Personnel in the latter category draw pensions and should be entitled to OROP. By just mentioning “early retirement” those drawing pension were being denied OROP, which was not justifiable. Though Prime Minister Modi has clarified OROP will be applicable to all those drawing pension, it is yet to be seen what will be mentioned in the government’s implementation letter, especially since this would likely be issued ‘after’ the Bihar elections.


Obviously, the bureaucratic advice that the Prime Minister and Defence Minister receive is wrought with anti-military machinations, otherwise such a clause—VRS in OROP—could not have been inserted in the first place. The Modi government became the laughing stock of the world due to the brutal police action on legally and peacefully protesting veterans at Jantar Mantar on August 14 – an action ill advised. The folly was compounded when no apology was rendered by any political authority. Sending a scapegoat police officer to apologize was a laughable action. There came not a word of remorse from the President (Supreme Commander of Armed Forces) during his Independence Day Eve address to the nation, neither by the PM and the RM on their Independence Day addresses,  or not even a tweet from the Prime Minister known for his humility.


Was it bureaucratic advice to keep the military under the thumb ‘any which way’? With Indo-Japanese relations on a high, the least our hierarchy can learn from the Japanese is humility. The fact remains that the blot of unprecedented police action against the veterans will stick with this government for a very long time.



But getting back to OROP, the veterans have simply been demanding OROP as defined by the 2011 Koshyari Parliamentary Committee and the grant of OROP w.e.f 01 Apr 2014, as committed by the UPA government in Parliament on 17 Feb 2014 and by the present NDA government.



The Defence Minister in his press briefing announced: cost of OROP would be Rs. 8,000-10,000 crore, increasing in future (recently MoD and Defence Accounts had stated cost of OROP as Rs 8,293 crores); benefit will be w.e.f 1st July 2014; arrears will be paid in four half-yearly installments, single installment for widows; 2013 will be taken as base year; pension will be re-fixed for all retiring in same rank with the same length of service as average of minimum and maximum pension in 2013, those drawing pensions above the average will be protected; personnel who voluntarily retire will not get OROP; pension would be re-fixed every 5-years; a one-man judicial committee to examine interests of retirees of different periods and different ranks and inter-service issues to submit report in six months; and that the PM’s commitment to OROP is fulfilled and MoD will soon issue implementation orders.


All those trumpeting that the promise stands fulfilled have obviously not read the Koshyari Committee Report. For had they read it, they would have realized what the military had prior to the 3rd Central Pay Commission (CPC) in 1973. The Committee’s recommendation to restore the pre-1973 status was accepted by both UPA and NDA governments.


The pre-1973 status meant that: OROP was applied to military with annual equalization of all military pensions which was not connected to any pay commission, and; in addition, benefits given to other government servants as part of pay commissions were also applied to the military. The 3rd CPC arbitrarily stopped OROP and annual equalization of pensions for the military, reduced military pensions from 70% of pay to 30%, enhanced pensions of other government employees and continued with annual equalization of 100% pension for organizations like the Railways (whose manpower strength is as large as the Indian Army), bureaucracy, judiciary, parliamentarians and civilian defence employees. Isn’t it shocking that 45% of defence pensions outlay is being consumed by 22% of civilian employees of MoD sitting in cushy offices. Can Finance Minister Arun Jaitley justify such protracted injustice to the military veterans?


The 5-year equalization of pay defeats the very definition of OROP as every 5-year window would find earlier retirees getting lesser pension from their junior counterparts retiring later. The Modi government had promised to implement the Koshyari Report which included automatic actualization of military pensions. This promise stands broken with the clause of revising pensions every 5-years. The public is being misled by the Finance Ministry saying that “huge sum” will be required to equalize military pensions annually, ‘without’ naming what that sum is. The fact is that annual equalization for four years adds to only about Rs 165.86 crores taking the present OROP cost of Rs 8,293 crores, latter worked out by MoD and Defence Accounts..


There hardly is a problem of money: MoD  surrendered Rs 6000 crores on 31st March as also Rs 1000 crores earmarked for the National War Memorial; between 2007-2013, bad debts of government banks amounting to Rs five lakh crore were written off and the RBI revealed that 95% of these were large loans to “big companies”, and; similar bad debts of sick PSUs including Air India were written off, some even inflated for understandable reasons. The latter two apparently are standard procedure by all governments to create slush funds that strictly is black money. Isn’t this deliberate “bureaucratic apathy” which the Koshyari Committee wanted stamped-out, and the government promised to do so as well?


Grant of benefits from 1st July 2014 instead of 1st April 2014 demanded by the veterans (commencement of FY 2014-15) is again a typical case of bureaucratic obduracy. Appointment of the One-Member Judicial Committee with a mandate to submit a report in six months appears an effort to take the veterans up the gum tree and dissipate their protests at Jantar Mantar. Why have these issues not been examined by the MoD, DESW, Finance Ministry over past several months? Is the intention to brief him what his recommendations should be? Why does this Committee not consist of a panel (as recommended by veterans) and why it should not have veteran representation unless this is deliberate like lack of service representation in the MoD and DESW.


The Defence Minister says government respects armed forces and looks after their welfare but how is it that the 7th CPC has no representation from the military despite such demands from past several years? How is it that IAS, IPS and the Central Services also have Assured Career Progression (ACP) but the military is denied this? The Koshyari Committee described in detail why Armed Forces cannot be equated with any other government service. The government accepted it but permitted underhand bureaucratic machinations. Till recently a DIG was between a Lt Col and a Col. Now a Col has been equated with Non-Functional Selection Grade (NFSG). The rank of a DIG is now officially equal to a Brigadier. Both are now on a Grade Pay of Rs 8900, because of the machinations of the Governmentt and the Central Services to run down the Military.


The bottom-line is that the promise of OROP which needed explicit measures to restore the pre-1973 status of military pensions has been thoroughly bungled by the bureaucracy and ostensibly by forces that want to discredit Prime Minister Modi, finances not being a problem as explained above. 5-year equalization of military pensions can no way be termed OROP as persons retiring in the 5-year window will start getting lesser pension than their juniors retiring later. By saying that the next revision will be after five years (in 2019) the bureaucracy has delivered a double blow to the military veterans, which is not being realized. With the 7th CPC delivering its recommendations before 2019, the obvious implications are that benefits given to other government employees as recommended by the 7th CPC will not be passed on to military veterans. It is reiterated that the pre-1973 OROP status included annual equalization of all military pensions (not connected to any pay commission) and benefits given to other government servants as part of pay commissions also applied to the military pensions.


It goes without saying that with the current lopsided OROP announcement, the BJP has lost plenty goodwill of military veterans. A half promise kept is no promise. It would be in fitness of things to agree to annual equalization of pensions as promised and appoint a military member in the 7th CPC to ensure the military veterans not lose out, in line with the pre-1973 status. It would also be in the fitness of things for a political figure to meet and address the veterans at Jantar Mantar and express remorse for the police action on August 14. Much that it may perhaps hurt the false ego of the said politician, all these actions will win back veteran support comprehensively.


What the government also needs to acknowledge is that over and above the issue of OROP is the crying need to reorganize the higher defence structures including the MoD without which the defence of India will remain in dire straits. The MoD needs to be replaced with a Department of Defence (DoD) headed by the Defence Minister and manned by military professionals. If Prime Minister Narendra Modi could replace the Planning Commission with the Niti Ayog there is no reason he cannot do so for defence – no matter how much the resistance. The entire serving and military veteran community will vote for him if their respect and dues are restored.



The author is veteran Lt Gen Special Forces of Indian Army.
















 

PROJECT SARASWATI : Exploring Indian Civilization With Michel Danino‏

SOURCE:
http://swarajyamag.com/lite/weekend-video-exploring-indian-civilization-with-michel-danino%e2%80%8f/



              Exploring Indian Civilization
                                 With
                         Michel Danino‏



Well known historian and scholar Michel Danino’s lecture series on “Exploring Indian Civilisation” is now available on Youtube.

The series consisting of 16 lectures begins with Danino speaking on the Indus-Saraswathi civilisation. He then goes on to dwell on the Aryan controversy. He spends an entire lecture explaining the recent findings on what he calls ‘the Ganga-Vindhya civilisation’. The series is not a mere chronological narration of Indian history – Danino shifts gears and deals with themes like India’s interface with the East and the West.

Later lectures are on topics such as Indian ecological traditions, water management and science in ancient India. The series ends with two lectures – one on the colonial impact on Indian society and economy, and what India could learn from its history


                 Lecture-01_Recent Findings
 on Indus-Sarasvati Civilization- IIT Kanpur  



Published on Jul 16, 2015
Exploring Indian Civilization by Michel Danino,IIT Kanpur
A survey of new perspectives on the Harappan world, based on recent excavations and scientific investigations.
       [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10tDjMdX_nA  ]





Lecture-02-
The Aryan Controversy- IIT Kanpur 

Published on Jul 16, 2015

Exploring Indian Civilization by Michel Danino,IIT Kanpur
1. How do today’s archaeologists, anthropologists, geneticists and linguists view the old Aryan controversy?
 


 [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL6nxDn3cmE ]

 



Lecture-03- Recent Findings on the Ganga-Vindhya Civilization-IIT Kanpur  


Published on Jul 16, 2015
Exploring Indian Civilization by Michel Danino,IIT Kanpur
1. Archaeologists, archaeometallurgists and palaeobotanists, among others, have quietly but radically altered our understanding of the beginnings of India’s classical civilization
       [  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYcy2fWSXPQ ]




Lecture-04
Sacred Geography and the Making of India- IIT Kanpur  


Published on Jul 16, 2015
Exploring Indian Civilization by Michel Danino,IIT Kanpur
1. Had it not been for the concept of a sacred geography, India might never have become one entity. But how was it put into operation?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUJd1yKC-jw  ]




Lecture-05
- India’s Interface with the Western World-IIT Kanpur  


Published on Jul 16, 2015
Exploring Indian Civilization by Michel Danino,IIT Kanpur
1. India’s interactions with Mesopotamia, Egypt, Greece, and the Arab world. How India enriched the Western world, and was occasionally enriched by it.

  [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNJ291g6zho  ]



Lecture-06
-India’s Interface with the Eastern World- IIT Kanpur  


Published on Jul 16, 2015
Exploring Indian Civilization by Michel Danino,IIT Kanpur
1. India’s interactions with China and Southeast Asia. India’s large footprints over Asia.






Lecture-07
-Ancient Indian Architecture and Sacred Geometry- IIT Kanpur  

Published on Jul 16, 2015
Exploring Indian Civilization by Michel Danino,IIT Kanpur
1. India’s architectural concepts developed on the basis of a profound philosophy and cosmology, with mathematics butting in unexpected ways.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7XCjPeblOo  ]




 Lecture-08- Ayodhya through the Ages and the Temple Controversy-IIT Kanpur  


Published on Jul 16, 2015
Exploring Indian Civilization by Michel Danino,IIT Kanpur
1. Can one cast a dispassionate look at the evidence from archaeology, literature, epigraphy, travellers’ testimonies and colonial reports

    [  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbCsG9dsVtI  ]










































FORTY YEARS WAR OROP : JACKALS ON PROWL FOR TIDBITS






                         The Big Picture
            - OROP Decision: What's in it?  


                   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4m0apgGOtA&feature=youtu.be


Published on Sep 7, 2015
Guests: Air Vice Marshal (Retd.) Kapil Kak, Centre for Air Power Studies ; Commodore (Retd.) C. Uday Bhaskar, Director, Society for Policy Studies ; Capt. Alok Bansal, Director, India Foundation ; Sujan Dutta, Editor, Strategic Affairs, The Telegraph.

Anchor: Girish Nikam

Air date: Sep 7, 2015

   



                           Understanding
             The Unresolved Issues In OROP
     (One Rank One Pension) Implementation  

Published on Sep 7, 2015
Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar’s announcement of the implementation of One Rank One Pension (OROP) for military veterans was expected to bring closure to the 83-day-old protests at Jantar Mantar in the capital. The veterans have accepted OROP from July 1, 2014, with 2013 being the base year of calculation, while rejecting five of the six announcements. The points of disagreement are technical: the veterans want the pensions to be equalised every two years, while the government is willing to do so every five years; the veterans want the pension of old retirees to be fixed at the maximum of current retirees, while the government has agreed to fix it at the average of the maximum and minimum; the veterans wanted a five-member commission with military representation to submit its report on the anomalies in implementation within a month, while the government has set up a one-member judicial committee with a time-frame of six months. These technical minutiae can be resolved by the two sides after mutual consultations. - See more at: http://indianexpress.com/article/opin...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFQcl6ZvGwE









                                           REPORT MY SIGNAL





10 Sep 2015.




 Dear Veterans,

 Jai Hind.


 IT IS MY DUTY TO WARN YOU OF AN EMERGENCY.
ACT FAST, ACT CAREFULLY AND WITHOUT FEAR
IF YOU WISH TO MAINTAIN SAINIK EKTA
AND NOT LOSE THE OROP WAR.




 Based on some reliable information I had already warned you that the Politicians and Babus can play any dirty trick to defeat Sainik Ekta and our just demand of OROP.


First they sent an emissary to Maj Gen Satbir Singh to call of the OROP agitation. Gen Satbir very firmly told them that he will call off the agitation as soon a brief letter is issued assuring grant of OROP as per the accepted definition of OROP by two Parliaments and stated in Koshiary Committee


You have already herd the PM making fun of the Koshiary Committee in his speech at the time of inaugurating the Faridabad Metro.



 




You have also heard the RM going back on his promises about OROP for PMR case, while giving a speech at Bangalore on 08 Sep 2015.


You also heard the Press Release of RM, in presence of our three Chiefs, about OROP. What he called OROP is not OROP but a total bluff as directed by the Babus and the FM.


When the emissary who came to ask Gen Satbir Singh to withdraw the agitation failed in his mission,
Gen Satbir was threatened that he will be sorted out.


Then came the Trump Card – Brig Kartar Singh, a very senior RSS Leader of many decade standing in RSS, was assigned the task of convincing other UFESM Leaders to call of the OROP agitation. Brig Kartar Singh has succeeded in his mission and in spite of Maj Gen Satbir Singh and some other UFESM Leader opposing the calling off of the Sainik Ekta Maha Rally on 12 Sep 2015, quite a few UFESM leaders have succumbed to the game plan of Politicians and Babus and are opposing the Rally to be held on 12 Sep 15.


Dear Veterans, it is time for you to judge whether you should listen to the advice of Brig Kartar Singh, a staunch RSS Leader, sent by politicians to wipe out agitation against the Government or should you listen to Maj Gen Satbir Singh, who has devoted EIGHT years of his life in fighting for justice for the Indian Military Veterans and Veer Naris.


If you do not want to be cheated by these Politicians and Babus, we must not call of our agitation, which we have so successfully managed since June this year.


We must defeat the dirty trick being played by Politicians and Babus through Brig Kartar Singh and some ESM who have fallen in the trap laid by Brig Kartar Singh.


You may have also read an email from another puppet of the Politicians, The Kadyan, who from the comforts of a foreign country has advised that rallies etc are of no use now.


If you call of the agitation and The Ekta Rally, then forget about OROP.


 You will be also destroying the sacrifice made by many of our Veterans who sat on Fast Unto Death for our sake.


Please make the Sainik Ekta Rally on 12 Sep 2015, a grand success.

Come with family and friends to Jantar Mantar at 1000 hours on 12 Sep 2015.


The agitation and rallies in all other cities also must continue till the time the Government issues a clean letter granting OROP according to its definition accepted by Two Parliaments.



IT IS NOW OR NEVER.
AN URGENT AND HUMBLE APPEAL TO FORMER CHIEFS OF ARMED FORCES.


Dear Sirs,

A very dirty trick has been played by the Politicians as explained above.

Only you can save this Sainik Ekta and our War for our just demand of OROP.


 All of you must make immediate announcement that you shall be joining the Sainik Ekta Rally at 1000 hours at Jantar Mantar on 12 Sep 2015.


 Moment you make that announcement the entire TV and Print Media of India will be on your feet.

Whatever you speak that day at Jantar Mantar will be fully trusted by the entire population of India and will shake up not only the Government but whole of India.


We shall provide you all the figures about OROP and related topics. We can also arrange for computerised presentation on a large screen Jantar Mantar, which will expose the blatant lies being told by the Babus and the Government about grant of OROP.



DEAR CHIEFS PLEASE SAVE US FROM HUMILIATION
AT THE HAND OF THESE POLITICIANS
AND OUR MISSION OF OROP.
IT IS NOW OR NEVER.



APPEAL TO ALL ESM AND VEER NARIS ON "REPORT MY SIGNAL"
EMAILING LIST


Give widest possible publicity to the contents of this email and defeat the dirty tricks of the Government and Brig Kartar Singh, a staunch RSS Leader.




 PLEASE HELP ME AND YOUR OWN SELF.



In service of Indian Armed Forces Veterans & Families

 Chander Kamboj

















 

Wednesday, September 9, 2015

OROP : A MORSEL HERE & A MORSEL THERE.



OROP :   A MORSEL HERE & A MORSEL THERE.
                  BABUS ARE TRYING TO PLAY
THE GAME OF TWO CATS AND A MONKEY -                                                                   -    VASUNDHRA




OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Dear Members


There is no doubt that Government has announced OROP and has given its definition also. This definition is same as given in Koshiari committee. This is all because of your support and perseverance.  However while announcing OROP in a press conference some twists have been introduced and these are not acceptable to UFESM
 
Fast unto death has been stopped as Govt has approved OROP in principle. RHS will continue as Govt has introduced  new twists in the announcements. These are
 
  • Pension rates for past pensioners will be calculated as per mean of max and min of the year. This is not acceptable as this defies the approved definition.
 
  •  [mean of max and min of the year means  one rank many pensions, this included with mixing of calendar year with financial years will result into further reduction of this so devised mean value . Give this arithmetic problem to any CLASS 10 plus two student & see how soon you get the devastating answer !!!!]  Vasundhra 
 
  • Date of implementation has been approved as 1 July 2014 as against required 1 Apr 2014, This is also not acceptable. 
 
  • Pension equalization is required to be done every year, how ever Govt has announced it to be every five years. it is not acceptable as it would mean one rank and five pension and defies approved definition. 
 
  • Govt has recommended a single judge committee to arbitrate annual or five yearly equalization. This is not acceptable we want five member committee with three members from ESM.
 
  • Govt has introduced that  anyone who has taken VRS will not be eligible for OROP. First of all there is no word like VRS in Armed Forces and all those who leave earlier are called PMR. In VRS a golder hand shake is given whereas in PMR we leave after serving minimum service and earn our pension. Hence any one who is getting pension must be legible for OROP.  Even though clarifications have been issued by PM and RM  but we need to be careful as wily bureaucrats can do anything while drafting Govt notification.  Clarifications issued have not allayed our doubts.
All members are informed that in view of above, agitation at JM will continue and RHS will also continue. All ESM are requested to inform their friends that ESMs have not been given their dues as promised. It is not the question of money but is a question of principle and ESM will not accept anything which violates the approved definition of OROP.

In case Govt forces this unilateral decision on ESM. UFESM will contest this in courts and will get full justice for ESM family. 
 
 
Other issues like effect of OROP on recommendation of 7 CPC are also under discussion at appropriate levels. 

UFESM HAS DECIDED TO HOLD EKTA RALLY AT JANTAR MANTAR ON 12 SEP 15 SATURDAY FROM 1000H TO 1400H. ALL ESM ARE REQUESTED TO ATTEND IN LARGE NUMBERS. THIS RALLY WILL PROJECT OUR CONCERNS ON OROP.

Leaflets in Hindi and English are enclosed. Pl get them printed and distribute in your areas to inform maximum ESM 

I hope this will clear the doubts in minds of ESM. Pl be rest assured that UFESM will not accept diluted/watered down OROP. 
Regards
Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM
Gen Sec IESM
Flat no 801, Tower N5
Narmada Apartments
Pocket D6 
Vasant Kunj
Nelson Mandela Marg
New Delhi. 110070
Mobile   
09810541222
OROP is our right. Dilution in OROP will NOT be accepted.
 
IF YOU SEE SOMEONE WITHOUT A SMILE GIVE HIM ONE OF YOURS




 
 
 ABOVE MISSIVE IS TO CLARIFY THE POLLUTED PSYCHE  WARFARE BEING SPREAD IN THE ENVIRONMENT AS GIVEN BELOW




From: ambreesh aggarwal <ambreeshaggarwal@hotmail.com>
To: Ravindra Pathak <
raviwarsha@gmail.com>; "cmdr.sreeni@gmail.com" <cmdr.sreeni@gmail.com>; "satbirsm@gmail.com" <satbirsm@gmail.com>; "vk_gandhi@yahoo.com" <vk_gandhi@yahoo.com>; "cbkrays@gmail.com" <cbkrays@gmail.com>; "samltcol@yahoo.co.in" <samltcol@yahoo.co.in>
Sent: Tuesday, 8 September 2015 2:37 PM
Subject: RE: Appeal to the 'ESM Leaders'


Dear sir, 

No issues, i am only doing it because i sincerely do not want this to become the cause of another massive litigation, this time unfortunately by letting go of what was already in our hands. Already hundreds of anxious requests have lined up before me. As an advocate more work is naturally and always welcome to me but not in this manner, not at the cost of fellow veterans' money, time and anxiety. I sincerely feel our esteemed leaders should have foreseen it, reacted to it forthwith and had not played in the hands of politicians and had not helped them create a wrong public perception about OROP having been given properly. I sincerely appeal to them to nudge the PM/RM rather than convincing people on their behalf. 

You might have seen the appeal I have made to none less than the President, PM, CJI and the RM, within minutes of the Press Briefing on 5.9.2015. If not, it is there on the net for anyone to see.  

regards
A K Aggarwal  


From: raviwarsha@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 14:15:04 +0530
Subject: Re: Appeal to the 'ESM Leaders'
To:
ambreeshaggarwal@hotmail.com
CC: cmdr.sreeni@gmail.com; satbirsm@gmail.com; vk_gandhi@yahoo.com

Dear Sir
Not getting into an argument let me say that their is nothing out of hand.I am sure IESM will continue the struggle till all entitlements as spelt out are met.The form of struggle will depend on situation.
You must know that we have now even withdrawn the offer of agreeing to 2 yrs settlement.
Pls have faith.
Pathak


Cdr Ravindra Waman Pathak I.N. (Retd)      
Member Governing Body and Pension Cell
Indian Ex Servicemen Movement
1 Surashri,1146 Lakaki Road
Shivajinagar 
Pune 411016
raviwarsha@gmail.com
9822329340 

What do we live for, if not to make life less difficult for each other? 

One of members had this to say about IESM

I SOUGHT MY SOUL ,MY SOUL I DID NOT SEE,
I SOUGHT MY GOD , MY GOD ELUDED ME,
I SOUGHT MY BROTHER,
AND IN IESM I FOUND ALL THE THREE.


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On 8 September 2015 at 14:03, ambreesh aggarwal <ambreeshaggarwal@hotmail.com> wrote:
My mail is with a purpose known to all. And the purpose is that the leaders must not make a deal with the perpetrators to sacrifice their own but not so liked child. 

There is nothing personal as you are trying to smell. I have never met these gentlemen in my entire life. Even I got their email ids only 5 minutes back from someone. 

As for the interaction you are referring to, i never quoted it to anyone for full 6 years, because i never ever had any scores to settle. But when things go out of control, the mindset of the person responsible has to be investigated and placed on record. 

regards 

A K Aggarwal


From: raviwarsha@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 13:51:08 +0530
Subject: Re: Appeal to the 'ESM Leaders'
To:
ambreeshaggarwal@hotmail.com
CC: cmdr.sreeni@gmail.com; satbirsm@gmail.com; vk_gandhi@yahoo.com


Dear Veteran
I wonder why you are taking this stand now.Is it a due past interaction that you are now reacting in the manner that you have?
Every details of every meeting was available on the net and there was no secrecy.There no reason for your accusations.
If you saw the RM when he read the Press Brief at the press conference he was most uncomfortable and so one can conclude that he was himself not happy with what he was asked to read.
We may have used this opportunity to end the FUD but the struggle is not over and we have made it clear.
On all issues we will again talk till our demand s are met.

So relax and stop showing your attitude without ground reality being known to you.
Pathak.


Cdr Ravindra Waman Pathak I.N. (Retd)      
Member Governing Body and Pension Cell
Indian Ex Servicemen Movement
1 Surashri,1146 Lakaki Road
Shivajinagar 
Pune 411016
raviwarsha@gmail.com
9822329340 

What do we live for, if not to make life less difficult for each other? 

One of members had this to say about IESM

I SOUGHT MY SOUL ,MY SOUL I DID NOT SEE,
I SOUGHT MY GOD , MY GOD ELUDED ME,
I SOUGHT MY BROTHER,
AND IN IESM I FOUND ALL THE THREE.


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On 8 September 2015 at 13:42, cdr.sreenivasan P S <cmdr.sreeni@gmail.com> wrote:


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: ambreesh aggarwal <
ambreeshaggarwal@hotmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, 8 September 2015
Subject: Appeal to the 'ESM Leaders'
To: "
satbirsm@gmail.com" <satbirsm@gmail.com>, "vkgandhi@yahoo.com" <vkgandhi@yahoo.com>


An appeal to Maj Gen Satbir Singh, Gp Capt Gandhi etc. and other ESM leaders

Do you admit that the applicability of OROP is yet (as on date) conditional for the PR officers, even after PM's damage control on 6.9.2015? 

Do you admit that the so called 'minor clarifications' to be issued later on this issue will eventually proclaim excluding those PR officers who exited service without so called 'justifiable' reasons e.g. health, injury etc.  

Are you individuals not parties to this last minute decision and confusion, and to a (political) deal made to end the stir and to project the government in a positive light for the sake of forthcoming Bihar Elections ? 

If not, will you please nudge the Prime Minister, Defence Minister etc. to conduct another press briefing to come out clearly and say that the OROP is applicable also to all the PR officers who have completed pensionable service and are in receipt of pension.  Let this be done before announcement of the dates of the Bihar Elections.  

If you won't & can't,  please stop misleading the gullible PR veterans, at least now.

If you can't, but are sincere about it, please do not wind up the agitation, rather intensify it.

If you are neither sincere nor serious about it, admit it clearly, let people know who you are and let someone else / some other group take over the agitation. 

regards
A K Aggarwal     


  





--
Samastha Lokaha Sukhino Bavanthu
Sreenivasan












 
 
 
 
FORTY YEAR WAR OROP : BATTLE HAS BEEN  THE  
                                  WAR " OROP" IS ON






               FORTY YEAR WAR OROP
                 BATTLE HAS BEEN WON
                           THE WAR
                            " OROP"
                                IS ON


 
                     A MORSEL HERE
                                   &
                  A MORSEL THERE.
 THE PROTRACTED  GUERRILLA  WAR 
                    WILL GO ON TILL 
                              "IZZAT"
                        IS RESTORED




       SOONER THE REALIZATION
                        THE BETTER
THAT INDIAN ARMY IS THE INDIAN PEOPLE'S ARMY. THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE ARMY WITH THE PEOPLE IS AS THE RELATIONSHIP OF "FISH" WITH THE  WATER 

                                                                 
                                                          Vasundhra         

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

FORTY YEAR WAR OROP : BATTLE HAS BEEN WON THE WAR " OROP" IS ON






               FORTY YEAR WAR OROP
                 BATTLE HAS BEEN WON
                           THE WAR
                            " OROP"
                                IS ON


 
                     A MORSEL HERE
                                   &
                  A MORSEL THERE.
 THE PROTRACTED  GUERRILLA  WAR 
                    WILL GO ON TILL 
                              "IZZAT"
                        IS RESTORED




       SOONER THE REALIZATION
                        THE BETTER
THAT INDIAN ARMY IS THE INDIAN PEOPLE'S ARMY. THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE ARMY WITH THE PEOPLE IS AS THE RELATIONSHIP OF "FISH" WITH THE  

                                                                  WATER
                                                          Vasundhra         





SOURCE:
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/programme/government-announces-orop-implementation/1/467701.html





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30 minutes: What is One Rank One Pension and why our soldiers truly deserve it


Published on May 29, 2015
One Rank One Pension scheme has been a long-standing demand of the over 2 million ex-servicemen in the country. In this episode of 30 minutes, Executive Editor Anubha Bhonsle discusses why our soldiers truly deserve OPOP.

 




Govt announces OROP implementation

Mon, 7 Sep 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urRphvxPQ_Y

























 

WAR OROP : ADVISORY FROM MORCHA "JANTAR MANTAR "

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Anil Kaul posted in Indian Ex Servicemen Movement.
 
   
Anil Kaul
September 9 at 7:28pm
 


LASH:
Some iunconfirmed reports are being spread around regarding the composition of the UFESM and with regard to the planned "Sainik Ekta " Rally on 12 September 2015 at Jantar Mantar.

This is to inform veterans in articular and the pubic in general that the factual position of both issues is as follows: -

Based on a discussion between the three advisors of UFESM on tuesday 8th of September, that in view of the ongoing agitation, there will be no meeting of UFESM till concurred by the three advisors. Therefore any such meeting held by any slinter groups is ultra vires and its proceedings are null nd void. The UFESM continues to function as hithertofore. Any thing to the contrary by anyone or any grou masquerading as reps of UFESM may kindly be dismissed as irrelevant

The"Sainik Ekta" Rally on12 Sep 2015 will be held as planned from 1000-1500 h at Jantar Mantar. Large numbers of ESM,Vir Naris and members of the public are expected to attend. During the Rally suitable commendations will be made to those who assisted in ensuring the agitatiin did bring some results. Not all of them on expected lines though.
The agitation continues as hithertofore.

Col Anil Kaul, VrC
Media Advisor
UFESM
9 Se 2015