OROP : A MORSEL HERE & A MORSEL THERE.

OROP :   A MORSEL HERE & A MORSEL THERE.
                  BABUS ARE TRYING TO PLAY
THE GAME OF TWO CATS AND A MONKEY -                                                                   -    VASUNDHRA




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Dear Members

There is no doubt that Government has announced OROP and has given its definition also. This definition is same as given in Koshiari committee. This is all because of your support and perseverance.  However while announcing OROP in a press conference some twists have been introduced and these are not acceptable to UFESM

 

Fast unto death has been stopped as Govt has approved OROP in principle. RHS will continue as Govt has introduced  new twists in the announcements. These are

 

• Pension rates for past pensioners will be calculated as per mean of max and min of the year. This is not acceptable as this defies the approved definition.

 

•  [mean of max and min of the year means  one rank many pensions, this included with mixing of calendar year with financial years will result into further reduction of this so devised mean value . Give this arithmetic problem to any CLASS 10 plus two student & see how soon you get the devastating answer !!!!]  Vasundhra 

 

• Date of implementation has been approved as 1 July 2014 as against required 1 Apr 2014, This is also not acceptable. 

 

• Pension equalization is required to be done every year, how ever Govt has announced it to be every five years. it is not acceptable as it would mean one rank and five pension and defies approved definition. 

 

• Govt has recommended a single judge committee to arbitrate annual or five yearly equalization. This is not acceptable we want five member committee with three members from ESM.

 

• Govt has introduced that  anyone who has taken VRS will not be eligible for OROP. First of all there is no word like VRS in Armed Forces and all those who leave earlier are called PMR. In VRS a golder hand shake is given whereas in PMR we leave after serving minimum service and earn our pension. Hence any one who is getting pension must be legible for OROP.  Even though clarifications have been issued by PM and RM  but we need to be careful as wily bureaucrats can do anything while drafting Govt notification.  Clarifications issued have not allayed our doubts.

All members are informed that in view of above, agitation at JM will continue and RHS will also continue. All ESM are requested to inform their friends that ESMs have not been given their dues as promised. It is not the question of money but is a question of principle and ESM will not accept anything which violates the approved definition of OROP.

In case Govt forces this unilateral decision on ESM. UFESM will contest this in courts and will get full justice for ESM family. 

 

 

Other issues like effect of OROP on recommendation of 7 CPC are also under discussion at appropriate levels. 

UFESM HAS DECIDED TO HOLD EKTA RALLY AT JANTAR MANTAR ON 12 SEP 15 SATURDAY FROM 1000H TO 1400H. ALL ESM ARE REQUESTED TO ATTEND IN LARGE NUMBERS. THIS RALLY WILL PROJECT OUR CONCERNS ON OROP.

Leaflets in Hindi and English are enclosed. Pl get them printed and distribute in your areas to inform maximum ESM 

I hope this will clear the doubts in minds of ESM. Pl be rest assured that UFESM will not accept diluted/watered down OROP. 

Regards

Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM
Gen Sec IESM
Flat no 801, Tower N5

Narmada Apartments

Pocket D6 

Vasant Kunj

Nelson Mandela Marg
New Delhi. 110070
Mobile   09810541222

OROP is our right. Dilution in OROP will NOT be accepted.

 

IF YOU SEE SOMEONE WITHOUT A SMILE GIVE HIM ONE OF YOURS

 

 

 ABOVE MISSIVE IS TO CLARIFY THE POLLUTED PSYCHE  WARFARE BEING SPREAD IN THE ENVIRONMENT AS GIVEN BELOW

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From: ambreesh aggarwal <ambreeshaggarwal@hotmail.com>
To: Ravindra Pathak <raviwarsha@gmail.com>; "cmdr.sreeni@gmail.com" <cmdr.sreeni@gmail.com>; "satbirsm@gmail.com" <satbirsm@gmail.com>; "vk_gandhi@yahoo.com" <vk_gandhi@yahoo.com>; "cbkrays@gmail.com" <cbkrays@gmail.com>; "samltcol@yahoo.co.in" <samltcol@yahoo.co.in>
Sent: Tuesday, 8 September 2015 2:37 PM
Subject: RE: Appeal to the 'ESM Leaders'

Dear sir, 

No issues, i am only doing it because i sincerely do not want this to become the cause of another massive litigation, this time unfortunately by letting go of what was already in our hands. Already hundreds of anxious requests have lined up before me. As an advocate more work is naturally and always welcome to me but not in this manner, not at the cost of fellow veterans' money, time and anxiety. I sincerely feel our esteemed leaders should have foreseen it, reacted to it forthwith and had not played in the hands of politicians and had not helped them create a wrong public perception about OROP having been given properly. I sincerely appeal to them to nudge the PM/RM rather than convincing people on their behalf. 

You might have seen the appeal I have made to none less than the President, PM, CJI and the RM, within minutes of the Press Briefing on 5.9.2015. If not, it is there on the net for anyone to see.  

regards

A K Aggarwal  

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From: raviwarsha@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 14:15:04 +0530
Subject: Re: Appeal to the 'ESM Leaders'
To: ambreeshaggarwal@hotmail.com
CC: cmdr.sreeni@gmail.com; satbirsm@gmail.com; vk_gandhi@yahoo.com

Dear Sir

Not getting into an argument let me say that their is nothing out of hand.I am sure IESM will continue the struggle till all entitlements as spelt out are met.The form of struggle will depend on situation.

You must know that we have now even withdrawn the offer of agreeing to 2 yrs settlement.

Pls have faith.

Pathak

Cdr Ravindra Waman Pathak I.N. (Retd)      

Member Governing Body and Pension Cell

Indian Ex Servicemen Movement

1 Surashri,1146 Lakaki Road
Shivajinagar 

Pune 411016
raviwarsha@gmail.com
9822329340 

What do we live for, if not to make life less difficult for each other? 

One of members had this to say about IESM

I SOUGHT MY SOUL ,MY SOUL I DID NOT SEE,
I SOUGHT MY GOD , MY GOD ELUDED ME,
I SOUGHT MY BROTHER,
AND IN IESM I FOUND ALL THE THREE.

On 8 September 2015 at 14:03, ambreesh aggarwal <ambreeshaggarwal@hotmail.com> wrote:

My mail is with a purpose known to all. And the purpose is that the leaders must not make a deal with the perpetrators to sacrifice their own but not so liked child. 

There is nothing personal as you are trying to smell. I have never met these gentlemen in my entire life. Even I got their email ids only 5 minutes back from someone. 

As for the interaction you are referring to, i never quoted it to anyone for full 6 years, because i never ever had any scores to settle. But when things go out of control, the mindset of the person responsible has to be investigated and placed on record. 

regards 

A K Aggarwal

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From: raviwarsha@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 13:51:08 +0530
Subject: Re: Appeal to the 'ESM Leaders'
To: ambreeshaggarwal@hotmail.com
CC: cmdr.sreeni@gmail.com; satbirsm@gmail.com; vk_gandhi@yahoo.com

Dear Veteran

I wonder why you are taking this stand now.Is it a due past interaction that you are now reacting in the manner that you have?

Every details of every meeting was available on the net and there was no secrecy.There no reason for your accusations.

If you saw the RM when he read the Press Brief at the press conference he was most uncomfortable and so one can conclude that he was himself not happy with what he was asked to read.

We may have used this opportunity to end the FUD but the struggle is not over and we have made it clear.

On all issues we will again talk till our demand s are met.

So relax and stop showing your attitude without ground reality being known to you.

Pathak.

Cdr Ravindra Waman Pathak I.N. (Retd)      

Member Governing Body and Pension Cell

Indian Ex Servicemen Movement

1 Surashri,1146 Lakaki Road
Shivajinagar 

Pune 411016
raviwarsha@gmail.com
9822329340 

What do we live for, if not to make life less difficult for each other? 

One of members had this to say about IESM

I SOUGHT MY SOUL ,MY SOUL I DID NOT SEE,
I SOUGHT MY GOD , MY GOD ELUDED ME,
I SOUGHT MY BROTHER,
AND IN IESM I FOUND ALL THE THREE.

On 8 September 2015 at 13:42, cdr.sreenivasan P S <cmdr.sreeni@gmail.com> wrote:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: ambreesh aggarwal <ambreeshaggarwal@hotmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, 8 September 2015
Subject: Appeal to the 'ESM Leaders'
To: "satbirsm@gmail.com" <satbirsm@gmail.com>, "vkgandhi@yahoo.com" <vkgandhi@yahoo.com>

An appeal to Maj Gen Satbir Singh, Gp Capt Gandhi etc. and other ESM leaders

Do you admit that the applicability of OROP is yet (as on date) conditional for the PR officers, even after PM's damage control on 6.9.2015? 

Do you admit that the so called 'minor clarifications' to be issued later on this issue will eventually proclaim excluding those PR officers who exited service without so called 'justifiable' reasons e.g. health, injury etc.  

Are you individuals not parties to this last minute decision and confusion, and to a (political) deal made to end the stir and to project the government in a positive light for the sake of forthcoming Bihar Elections ? 

If not, will you please nudge the Prime Minister, Defence Minister etc. to conduct another press briefing to come out clearly and say that the OROP is applicable also to all the PR officers who have completed pensionable service and are in receipt of pension.  Let this be done before announcement of the dates of the Bihar Elections.  

If you won't & can't,  please stop misleading the gullible PR veterans, at least now.

If you can't, but are sincere about it, please do not wind up the agitation, rather intensify it.

If you are neither sincere nor serious about it, admit it clearly, let people know who you are and let someone else / some other group take over the agitation. 

regards

A K Aggarwal     

  

--
Samastha Lokaha Sukhino Bavanthu
Sreenivasan

 

 

 

 

FORTY YEAR WAR OROP : BATTLE HAS BEEN  THE  

                                  WAR " OROP" IS ON

               FORTY YEAR WAR OROP
                 BATTLE HAS BEEN WON
                           THE WAR
                            " OROP"
                                IS ON


 
                     A MORSEL HERE
                                   &
                  A MORSEL THERE.
 THE PROTRACTED  GUERRILLA  WAR 
                    WILL GO ON TILL 
                              "IZZAT"
                        IS RESTORED




       SOONER THE REALIZATION
                        THE BETTER
THAT INDIAN ARMY IS THE INDIAN PEOPLE'S ARMY. THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE ARMY WITH THE PEOPLE IS AS THE RELATIONSHIP OF "FISH" WITH THE  WATER 

                                                                 
                                                          Vasundhra