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WAKE UP CALL
Have the OROP Protests
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ALSO BY THE WAY AUTHOR Col Danvir Singh is the Associate Editor, Indian Defence Review, former Commanding Officer, 9 Sikh LI and author of book 'Kashmir's Death Trap: Tales of Perfidy and Valour'.
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WAKE UP CALL
OROP..... FAILURE
OR
SUCCESS OR FAILURE
ANY THING WILL NOW LEAD
TO
"CONSTITUTIONAL DICTATORSHIP"
OR
SUCCESS OR FAILURE
ANY THING WILL NOW LEAD
TO
"CONSTITUTIONAL DICTATORSHIP"
Ashish Das with Cdr Sharan Ahuja Sja and 5 others
Have the OROP Protests
Politicised the Indian Army?
The announcement of grant of OROP was done at a press conference by the RM on Sep 05, 2015. A long pending d...emand of the military personnel appeared to have been met. It stirred up another controversy around VRS.
Later though, the Prime Minister rested all doubts on VRS at Faridabad rally a day later. This however did not appear to have satisfied the veterans protesting at Jantar Mantar. They have since continued to express their dissent.
What has happened recently on the street at Jantar Mantar for the past 80-plus days is unprecedented.
The narrative changed on the August 14. Bishimber, an 82-year-old veteran who had fought the men in Khakis during the 1965 and 1971 Indo-Pak wars was manhandled by his own country's men in Khakis - "the Delhi police".
The citizens of India have not yet fathomed the magnitude and the scale of the tectonic shift that has taken place at the core.
This silent shift that has taken place far beneath the surface appears unseen.
The vibrations are not felt thus far.
It touched the nerve of lakhs of tomorrow's Ex-servicemen who still don the Olive Green uniform in service of India.
The pain of the push and the shove suffered by Bishimber was felt by ALL and sundry within the Armed Forces.
Till that day a vast uniformed majority questioned the unmilitary like conduct by their predecessors.
√ This incident shook that off forcing many to rethink. Today lakhs and lakhs of rupees are pouring in from none other than the Servicemen themselves in support of the cause. The 'ears and eyes' of the govt ideally should have picked up the sentiment correctly.
√ A senior officer serving in a Strike Formation informed me how these protests have become the centre of all discussions within the Army.
He said generally the feeling across is "Now or Never".
They feel the protests should continue till such time the govt conceded towards accepting 'One Rank One Pension' and stop thumping its chest over the granted 'One Rank Five Pensions'.
This common argument resonates all across the Cantonments and gives immense strength to those sitting at Jantar Mantar.
√ A serving General who happens to be the General Officer Commanding of a formation said, "The trust between the Govt and the Defence Forces has been eroded.... The Defence Forces will in their manner and means demand their rightful place, may be in a more 'forceful' manner in times to come".
√ Another officer, a Colonel doing a Higher Defence Management Course down south said, "These OROP protests and the ensuing debate has opened our eyes. How oblivious we were till yesterday. The fact of the matter is that we have been exploited by the Netas and the Babus because we were good soldiers who never questioned".
Interestingly, a friend of mine who is a Country Head of a MNC raised a very pertinent doubt. He said is it not surprising as to why the govt has not conceded to the fundamental demand of the veterans.
In-spite of the high pedestal the Indian Armed Forces stand on, they are finding getting public, media and the celebrity support so difficult. Why?
Whatever may be the reason for this lack of support, the fact remains that a civilian counterpart draws a pension three times that of a soldier.
√ A civilian's pension gets equalised annually without any so-called administrative problems as highlighted by Arun Jaitley the FM, while justifying delay in announcing OROP.
Going by the Supreme Court ruling, the pension is a payment due for the services already rendered.
OROP thus is a justified demand for this payment denied.
While the civilians see it as a fight for extra money, the serving and the retired soldiers see it as a fight for honour and equality with their civilian brethren.
Narendra Modi at the Riwari rally in 2013 had probably reset the course of destiny.
He rekindled the long-suppressed aspirations of the military personnel who had been demanding equality through the OROP.
√ And in doing so he had inadvertently underscored their relevance in the overall power play. Jantar Mantar is just one such manifestation.
Let the history judge, nevertheless it is high time to sit and analyse on the policy of suppression started by Nehru towards the Armed Forces personnel arising out of the fears of a military coup.
Better be late than never.
......Danvir Singh..
http://www.sify.com/…/have-the-orop-protests-politicised-th…
What has happened recently on the street at Jantar Mantar for the past 80-plus days is unprecedented.
The narrative changed on the August 14. Bishimber, an 82-year-old veteran who had fought the men in Khakis during the 1965 and 1971 Indo-Pak wars was manhandled by his own country's men in Khakis - "the Delhi police".
The citizens of India have not yet fathomed the magnitude and the scale of the tectonic shift that has taken place at the core.
This silent shift that has taken place far beneath the surface appears unseen.
The vibrations are not felt thus far.
It touched the nerve of lakhs of tomorrow's Ex-servicemen who still don the Olive Green uniform in service of India.
The pain of the push and the shove suffered by Bishimber was felt by ALL and sundry within the Armed Forces.
Till that day a vast uniformed majority questioned the unmilitary like conduct by their predecessors.
√ This incident shook that off forcing many to rethink. Today lakhs and lakhs of rupees are pouring in from none other than the Servicemen themselves in support of the cause. The 'ears and eyes' of the govt ideally should have picked up the sentiment correctly.
√ A senior officer serving in a Strike Formation informed me how these protests have become the centre of all discussions within the Army.
He said generally the feeling across is "Now or Never".
They feel the protests should continue till such time the govt conceded towards accepting 'One Rank One Pension' and stop thumping its chest over the granted 'One Rank Five Pensions'.
This common argument resonates all across the Cantonments and gives immense strength to those sitting at Jantar Mantar.
√ A serving General who happens to be the General Officer Commanding of a formation said, "The trust between the Govt and the Defence Forces has been eroded.... The Defence Forces will in their manner and means demand their rightful place, may be in a more 'forceful' manner in times to come".
√ Another officer, a Colonel doing a Higher Defence Management Course down south said, "These OROP protests and the ensuing debate has opened our eyes. How oblivious we were till yesterday. The fact of the matter is that we have been exploited by the Netas and the Babus because we were good soldiers who never questioned".
Interestingly, a friend of mine who is a Country Head of a MNC raised a very pertinent doubt. He said is it not surprising as to why the govt has not conceded to the fundamental demand of the veterans.
In-spite of the high pedestal the Indian Armed Forces stand on, they are finding getting public, media and the celebrity support so difficult. Why?
Whatever may be the reason for this lack of support, the fact remains that a civilian counterpart draws a pension three times that of a soldier.
√ A civilian's pension gets equalised annually without any so-called administrative problems as highlighted by Arun Jaitley the FM, while justifying delay in announcing OROP.
Going by the Supreme Court ruling, the pension is a payment due for the services already rendered.
OROP thus is a justified demand for this payment denied.
While the civilians see it as a fight for extra money, the serving and the retired soldiers see it as a fight for honour and equality with their civilian brethren.
Narendra Modi at the Riwari rally in 2013 had probably reset the course of destiny.
He rekindled the long-suppressed aspirations of the military personnel who had been demanding equality through the OROP.
√ And in doing so he had inadvertently underscored their relevance in the overall power play. Jantar Mantar is just one such manifestation.
Let the history judge, nevertheless it is high time to sit and analyse on the policy of suppression started by Nehru towards the Armed Forces personnel arising out of the fears of a military coup.
Better be late than never.
......Danvir Singh..
http://www.sify.com/…/have-the-orop-protests-politicised-th…
" READ BABU- PAKI 'HATE' MAIL "
ALSO BY THE WAY AUTHOR Col Danvir Singh is the Associate Editor, Indian Defence Review, former Commanding Officer, 9 Sikh LI and author of book 'Kashmir's Death Trap: Tales of Perfidy and Valour'.
Ramesh Bhad
4 Minutes ago
RB
Writer says lacs and lacs are coming from serving and retired personnel. Utter nonsense. The writer runs a security agency--how much has he contributed? When they do not have money and are fighting for orop how will they contribute lacs and lacs. One Brig Sandhu let out the secret--he told News X that a lot of muslim organisations and foreign NGOs are supporting the movement. A lot of drug money is being pumped in by Pakistan through Punja
Ashok Kamat
33 Minutes ago
AK
I have read some articles by this colonel.He cannot frame two decent sentences. Is this the standard of our army? Claims to be editor of some magazine. I very much doubt.
Digambar
57 Minutes ago
DI
These retired fellows at jantar mantar are not faujis but have been on the civvy streets for long long time. Most of them have dabbled in various professions. For some reasons all officers who retire are frustrated whether it is a colonel or general. Some unfulfilled yearnings, acute sense of under achievement. This is not seen amongst retired jawans. May be the knowledge of working English and shirt and tie gives them exaggerated ambitions, false self-image. That is why when you meet a retired officer the first thing he will tell you is to how muc money he has and how happy he is. Nevertheless his reality is jantar mantar.
Manohar
1 Hour ago
MA
The government must take note of the impact of the prolonged delay in the implementation of OROP on morale — not only of the veterans, but also of the serving soldiers; it may also affect many second or third generation soldiers who are witness to the sad plight of those before them. The day a soldier takes his oath, he undertakes to selflessly serve his nation and even make the supreme sacrifice when necessary. He swears allegiance to Naam, Namak, Nishan and has never faltered. In turn, the nation’s covenant is that no effort will be spared to look after his welfare and that of his family. Addressing the United States servicemen some years [ WEEKS ] ago, US President Barack Obama said, “…when you take off the uniform, we will serve you as well as you’ve served us — because no one who fights for this country should have to fight for a job, or a roof over their heads, or the care that they need when they come home.” Indian veterans also need to be given a similar assurance, but one that is credible.
zee
6 Hours ago
ZE
Paki, I guess, aiming to create rift between Military & the Hon PM. It will remain a wishful thinking only.
Sameer
8 Hours ago
SA
The angels died young in the battlefield, the meritorious,brave and those with character are working quietly for the uplift of the nation, the residual filth is sitting at jantar mantar. It is this filth that Mr Modi has to deal with.
Brig Chahal
9 Hours ago
BC
You see armed forces personnel live by the edge except for infantry. In Kargil Gp Capt Ganddhi had flown 500 sorties and reduced kargil heights to rubbles, then the tanks commanded by kaul churned the bunkers, then the artillery under satbir played havoc with the enemy poised for counter attack, the generals had led assaults personally in which most FOO (artillery officers directing fire) died, then Barkha Dutt; reporting put the pakis on freeze. At last the in experienced young officers went and were killed in friendly fire. The Indian generals took responsibility and refused to take any awards. Why should such patriots trust modi.
meheli
9 Hours ago
ME
I remember, reading some where that military men cannot join politics, especially standing in elections for a few years after retirement. If I am correct, then what about the elections of couple of ex-military men immediately on retirement?
Dilip
9 Hours ago
DI
This author like Satbir runs a security agency , the most degrading job that any ex-army officer with character can chose after retirement. These people have been earning money by culling percentages of earnings of ex-servicemen and poor who they provide as security guards.When money from OROP comes they will demand greater percentages. For respectability this man pretends to be a defence analyst. A fraud of the highest order.
sahana
16 Hours ago
SA
We have no issue if this great country is poor and unable to pay the rightful due ( not to be refered as demand) to the veterans after this nation has already wringed us of our youth. Can FM, RM and my countrymen assure that the NFFU , accelared promotion and other disparities will be removed from babudom, judges, MPs.. Let us share the poverty else these bhakts and paid keyboard babus stop pointing fingers at us. It took no time to reduce ours in 1973 and that too w/o any val We have no issue if this great country is poor and unable to pay the rightful due ( not to be refered as demand) to the veterans after this nation has already wringed us of our youth. Can FM, RM and my countrymen assure that the NFFU , accelared promotion and other disparities will be removed from babudom, judges, MPs.. Let us share the poverty else these bhakts and paid keyboard babus stop pointing fingers at us. It took no time to reduce ours in 1973 and that too w/o any valid reason offered till date.it reason offered till date.
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Col Danvir Singh is the Associate Editor, Indian Defence Review, former Commanding Officer, 9 Sikh LI and author of book 'Kashmir's Death Trap: Tales of Perfidy and Valour'.
THOSE STALWARTS ASKING OROP FOR CIV OR SUPPORTING THEM KINDLY READ & THEN SAY
ReplyDelete1] WOULD THEY LIKE TO STEP DOWN FROM SERVICE FROM 60 YEARS TO 35 YEARS AS IN THE ARMY ,, 35 YEARS
2] WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHED NFU STATUS ,AS IT IS NOT AVAILABLE TO THE ARMY
3] WOULD LIKE TO SERVE FOR 24X7 AS IN ARMY & ,,, WITHOUT OVERTIME
4[ WOULD YOU LIKE TO FORE GO ALL RAILWAY FREE PASSES & FREEBEES AFTER RETIREMENT
5[ WOULD YOU LIKE TO SERVE IN DIFFICULT AREAS.. LIKE SNOW BOUND,JUNGLES,DESERTS EXTRA WITHOUT LIGHT & HOUSE ALTHOUGH MSP WILL BE PAID TO YOU AS PER ARMY SCALE.
6[ WOULD YOU LIKE TO WORK UNDER ENEMY FIRE OF THREAT 24X7
7[ YOUR ONE DAY STRIKE COST TO GOVT IS 25000 CRORES , SO GOVT SHOULD RECOVER THIS LOSS AS FORCES CANNOT GO ON STRIKE SO SHOULD BE,. MOREOVER YOUR ABSENCE SHOULD BE RECORDED IN DOCUMENTS SO THAT YOU FORE GO PENSION
8] Govt has infused 500000 crores to off set NPA of banks , Result of non performer babus & bankers, that does not pinch to you but pension of old warriors & widow pinches to you . WE ARE PUNISHED FOR LOSS,, WOULD YOU LIKE IN SUCH CASES BANKERS &BABUS SHOULD ALSO BE PUNISHED
9] THEIR WILL BE NO AID TO CIVIL POWER .. PAY FOR YOUR DEEDS & FAILURES. ARMY DOES NOT ASK FOR SUCH AIDS
10] ] LET ALL OF US ACCEPT 1973 STATUS.. 70 % PENSION TO FORCES & 30 % FOR CIV
11] INITIALLY PRINCES & CHILDREN FROM ELITE FAMILIES USE TO COME TO ARMY , SO ELITE MUST BE FORCED TO JOIN AGAIN TO HAVE BETTER QUALITY
12] SHED HOLIDAYS OF SATURDAY & SUNDAY -104 DAYS LOSS TO NATION .WORK LIKE ARMY 24X7
13[NO HOME POSTINGS AS THEIR OUTPUT DECREASES. HOME WORRIES
COL LAMBA[ ONE MAN ARMY]