Beijing To Help Pakistan Make more Long-Range ICBMs - IS IT TO NUKE USA !!??

SOURCE:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/if-india-makes-more-long-range-icbms-beijing-may-help-pakistan-do-the-same-says-chinese-state-media/articleshow/56347332.cms



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    If Chinks want to equate PAKIS with India it is  time for India to reclaim Pakistan as an integral part of India & TIBET along with OUTER TIBET as part of autonomous region of Greater India. India should also diplomatically recognize TAIWAN & establish diplomatic relations. India should also lay claim to complete  South East Asia as an extension of Indian cultural heritage.

If India Makes more Long-Range ICBMs, Beijing may help Pakistan do the same, says Chinese State Media

HIGHLIGHTS

• Chinese media said Pakistan should get the same nuclear privileges as India
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• It also hinted it will help Pakistan build long-range nuclear missiles
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• It said India has 'broken limits' on how many missiles it can make

Jan 5, 2017

Beijing wants to communicate the message that if India increases the number of its long-range missiles, it will help "all-weather friend" Pakistan do the same, Chinese media said.

The context to this comment was India's final test firing of the Agni-IV+ inter-continental ballistic missile (ICBM) on Monday.

"If the UN Security Council has no objection over this (ICBMs), let it be. The range of Pakistan's nuclear missiles will also see an increase," the state-run Global Times said in an editorial, hinting that China will help Pakistan come on par with India.

News outfits in China are often used by the government to convey its opinions or to test the waters or to deliver rebukes it can't through diplomatic channels.

Global Times's editorial further batted for Pakistan saying it should be accorded the same nuclear privileges as India.

"If the Western countries accept India as a nuclear country and are indifferent to the nuclear race between India and Pakistan, China will not stand out and stick rigidly to those nuclear rules as necessary. At this time, Pakistan should have those privileges in nuclear development that India has," the editorial said.

On the one hand, the editorial said China isn't bothered by India's testing of missiles that can carry nuclear warheads, but on the other it did sound like Beijing was perturbed by Agni-IV, especially as it came close on the heels of 

thesuccessful test-firing of Agni-V+ .

"...Chinese don't feel India's development has posed any big threat to it. And India wouldn't be considered as China's main rival in the long run," the editorial first says.

"But it (China) will not sit still if India goes too far...New Delhi understands that it does little good to itself if the Sino-Indian relations are ruined by any geopolitical tricks," the editorial says later.

Aside from these issues, the editorial alleged that India "has broken the UN's limits" on how many nuclear weapons and long-range ballistic missiles it can produce.

 Whats Pak gonna do with ICBMs when its current missiles are sufficient to target cities upto Chennai They want to target Arunachal Pradesh?  

                                OR 

by proxy chinks want USA to get NUKED by PAKIs  India should call out China''s bluff and supply Agni IV to Vietnam.

"The US and some Western countries have also bent the rules on its nuclear plans. New Delhi is no longer satisfied with its nuclear capability and is seeking intercontinental ballistic missiles that can target anywhere in the world and then it can land on an equal footing with the UN Security Council's five permanent members," the editorial said.

On Monday, India successfully tested - for the final time - its long-range ballistic missile, Agni-IV, which can travel 4,000 kilometres. No long before that, it successfully test-fired Agni-V that has a range of more than 5,000 kilometres and can reach Europe and the northernmost parts of China.

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NIRBHAY SUBSONIC CRUISE MISSILE “An Utter Failure”

SOURCE:
http://www.defencenews.in/article/Nirbhay-Missile-Test-%E2%80%9CAn-Utter-Failure%E2%80%9D-219669?utm_source=NotifyVisitors&utm_medium=browser_push_notification&utm_campaign=NirbhayMissileTestAnUtterFailure

NIRBHAY SUBSONIC CRUISE MISSILE                          “An Utter Failure” 

 REFER TO http://bcvasundhra.blogspot.in/2016/11/nirbhay-cruise-missile.html

A flight-test of subsonic cruise missile Nirbhay from the Integrated Test Range (ITR) at Balasore in Odisha on Wednesday was “an utter failure”, informed sources in the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) said.

Out of four Nirbhay missions so far, three, including Wednesday's flight-test, have ended in failure.

On Wednesday afternoon, after the missile took off from Launch Complex-III of the ITR, it did not follow the required flight path.

“The booster engine in Nirbhay's first stage started working. The missile lifted off from its launcher. But it started veering dangerously towards one side in less than two minutes of its lift-off,” DRDO officials said.

The missile started flying beyond the safety corridor and threatened to fall on the land. So the “destruct” mechanism in its first stage was activated and it was destroyed.

The DRDO sources called the mission “an utter failure” because the missile started veering towards one side  in the “initial phase” of the flight itself. They said, “It is a big failure. We should have a thorough re-look at what has been done so far. Out of four Nirbhay missions, three have ended in failure.”

The sources ruled out any problem with the missile's configuration. They said it could be “a hardware failure” that led to the mission being aborted. “This is a hardware element issue. This is a reliability issue with a component,” they explained.

A successful Nirbhay mission would have lasted for more than an hour. In a normal mission, the contraption will take off vertically like a missile, then a mechanism in its first stage will tilt the missile horizontally and the first stage, with its booster engine, will jettison into the sea. Then the second stage with the turbo-engine will start cruising horizontally like an aircraft with its wings spread out at a subsonic speed of 0.7 Mach.

The missile, conceived, designed and developed by the DRDO, can take out targets 1,000 km away. It can carry a 300 kg warhead.

Previous tests

Nirbhay’s debut flight on March 12, 2013 was a failure. After 20 minutes of lift-off, it deviated from its path and its “destruct” mechanism was activated to ''kill'' it.

The second flight on October 17, 2014 was a big success. The missile travelled 1,010 km instead of the targeted 800 km.

The third mission on October 16, 2015 was again a failure. After 70 seconds of its flight, when it was cruising like an aircraft after the first stage had fallen off as planned, it lost control and fell within the safety zone.

Nirbhay Subsonic Cruise Missile

SOURCE:
http://www.defencenews.in/article.aspx?id=39351



REF TO ;

http://bcvasundhra.blogspot.in/2016/12/nirbhay-subsonic-cruise-missile-utter.html



After MTCR Membership, India to once again test Nirbhay Cruise Missile in Dec
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Tuesday, November 22, 2016

What is a Cruise Missile : For details CLICK url  to read

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruise_missile 

Weapons: Why is India keen on developing the subsonic cruise missile Nirbhaya, when it already has the supersonic cruise missile Brahmos?

What can a subsonic cruise missile do that a supersonic cruise missile cannot?

The answer is the range of the missile which differs significantly from subsonic to Supersonic. As you may heard about tomahawk cruise missile, it’s a subsonic missile.

Let’s just compare Tomahawk and BrahMos missiles.

Range:

• Tomahawk-: 1300KM - 2500KM
• BrahMos-: 300 KM- 500 KM (only 20% of Tomahawk’s max range)

Weight:

• Tomahawk-: 1600 Kg
• Brahmos-: 3000Kg(Just double of Tomahawk)

From above comparison we can say that just to achieve the supersonic speed brahmos need to burn double fuel than the Tomahawk but it could only reach the 20% of max range of tomahawk.

That’s why India is keen to develop a subsonic missile.

for further reference you might go through these links

Tomahawk (missile)?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomahawk__(missile

A sub sonic missile travels vastly slower than a supersonic missile. Therefore it'd take much longer to reach a target. And the efficient engine it has, compared to the supersonic missile would allow it to 'loiter' over a target area. In other words, once the missile is overhead and is put on a "loiter" pattern, the government can make a decision as to whether a strike still needs to be carried out or not. If they choose not to, the missile can be safely self destructed well above the target. Also, as explained  above  you do not need as much fuel and therefore as much weight to strike the intended target. This means that a sub-sonic missile can either travel much farther than a supersonic one or carry more ordnance.

(An image of the famous Tomahawk cruise missile. It is a long-range, all-weather, subsonic cruise missile named after the Native American word for 'axe.' Introduced by McDonnell Douglas in the 1970s, it was initially designed as a medium to long-range, low-altitude missile that could be launched from a surface platform. It has been improved several times, and due to corporate divestitures and acquisitions, is now made by Raytheon.)

(an image of the world's only in-production supersonic cruise missile, Brahmos. It is a short range ramjet supersonic cruise missile that can be launched from submarines, ships, aircraft or land.

It is a joint venture between the Russian Federation's NPO Mashinostroeyenia and India's Defence Research and Development Organisation(DRDO) who have together formed BrahMos Aerospace Private Limited.)

In cases where speed is not of essence, and to reach a target farther away or more heavily "hardened," (such as command and control buildings, Headquarters etc.,) a sub-sonic missile is necessary. In a hypothetical situation where we need to strike a terrorist camp, a sub-sonic missile can loiter over the intended target area and wait until it is appropriate to strike, inorder to minimise collateral damage and civilian casualties.

Also, by virtue of their slower speed, the sub-sonic missiles can fly closer to the ground using the "terrain hugging" (or 'nap of the earth') tactic and more efficiently evade enemy radar detection (because of the earth's curvature, radar waves after a certain distance will be unable to detect low flying aircrafts or missiles). While the advantage of a supersonic missile is its speed, which means reduced reaction time for the enemy, the advantage for the sub-sonic missile is greater range/payload and greatly reduced odds of detection.

The enemy cannot run from a supersonic missile, and similarly he would not realise what just hit him if its a sub-sonic missile

                                                

Has India’s recent membership of the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR) made a difference in the indigenously designed and developed long range sub-sonic cruise missile ‘Nirbhay’?


India has to depend on indigenous technology so far because it was not a member of MTCR. This led to two failures and one partial success. The missile has recently undergone changes and Indian scientists are geared for a fourth test in December this year.

“A low-flight trial (Of Nirbhaya) will be held next month. This will be followed by two more flights. Work on the air variant is on,” said Aeronautical Development Establishment Director M V K V Prasad.

India’s Defense Ministry had claimed success in some operations that the missile had performed during its last test lasting over 11 minutes.

“DRDO needs to get over the critical challenges experienced in stability of the missile in flight over long range which has led to abortion of the mission twice so far,” defense analyst Brigadier Rahul Bhonsle (retired) said.

India had sanctioned the project in 2010 with plans to complete it after three years. Later on, Government had extended the date of completion and adds extra cost to the project.

Of late, it was speculated that plans to extend the range of Indo-Russian BrahMos missile may sink the Nirbhay project.

“Technically speaking a BrahMos with extended range and Nirbhay are two separate projects by different agencies. Thus the move to extend the range of BrahMos should not impact the development of the Nirbhay. What is to be decided is do we want two sets of cruise missiles – one with a range of 600 and another 1,000 kms? Is there an operational requirement of the two categories of missiles for the armed forces and is there enough money to develop both?” asked Bhonsle.

However, the Governments wants to provide full backing to a completely indigenous project as it will give the defense planners greater autonomy in production and deployment.

MISSILE DEFENCE SYSTEM :: TURKEY -Turkey Kills Missile System Deal with China Manufacturer

SOURCE ::
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/turkey/turkey-151115-presstv01.htm?_m=3n%2e002a%2e1567%2eka0ao00b2h%2e1fu6

        Turkey Kills Missile System Deal 

                              with

              China Manufacturer

Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:2PM

Turkey has rescinded a contract with a state-owned Chinese manufacturer that would have seen the company build Ankara its first long-range missile defense system.

"The deal was cancelled," an official from Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu's office told AFP.

The USD-3.4-billion (EUR-3-billion) contract was clinched with China Precision Machinery Import and Export Corporation (CPMIEC) following talks with the firm in 2013.

The deal originally raised eyebrows among other NATO members, which complained that the defense apparatus would lack the qualities enabling it to work in tandem with other such systems in the Western military alliance.

Turkey has US-manufactured Patriot missiles stationed along its border with Syria.

The Chinese company has been placed under sanctions by Washington allegedly for selling items that are banned under US law to curb the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.

The Turkish official, whose name was not mentioned in the report, said, "One of the main reasons is that we will launch our own national missile project."

Prior to the cancellation of the deal, however, Turkish Defense Minister İsmet Yılmaz had emphasized that Ankara's decision to opt for a Chinese-built system and avoid integration with the existing NATO defense infrastructure was in line with the country's national defense interests.

Experts had also argued that choosing a Chinese partner would ultimately enable Turkey to own both the system and the technology.

French-Italian consortium Eurosam and US-listed Raytheon Co have also submitted offers to help build the Turkey Long Range Air and Missile Defense System (T-LORAMIDS).

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