Monday, November 23, 2015

OROP : OROP KNOCKS THE DOOR OF SUPREME COURT




       OROP KNOCKS THE DOOR 
                                   OF 
                    SUPREME COURT

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CHANDIGARH: Rejecting the government notification for implementing one rank, one pension (OROP) formula for the armed forces on the grounds that it was unfair and full of flaws, the United Front of Ex-servicemen has decided to take their battle to the Supreme Court.

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Posted at: Nov 23 2015 1:22AM

Veterans to move SC over govt’s ‘flawed’ OROP orders

Allege there are seven serious anomalies in notification



Ex-servicemen during their agitation at Jantar Mantar in New Delhi on Tuesday. Tribune Photo: Mukesh Aggarwal

Tribune News Service
Chandigarh, 

November 22

Rejecting the government notification for implementing one rank, one pension (OROP) formula for the armed forces on the grounds that it was unfair and full of flaws, the United Front of Ex-servicemen has decided to take their battle to the Supreme Court.

Revealing that they would be filing a petition before the apex court within few days, Major General Satbir Singh (retd), the front’s adviser today claimed that several top lawyers have agreed to take up their cause without charging any fee. Terming the notification a “betrayal”, he said there were seven serious flaws in the order which was contrary to the defined and accepted definition of the OROP. The formula that was devised by the Defence Minister and acceptable to the veterans was later subverted by the Ministry of Finance and the Prime Minister’s Office, he added.

Non-inclusion of future pre-mature retirees in the ambit of OROP, revision of pension once in five years instead of every year, fixation of pension at the average of the minimum and maximum of the pay scale instead of the maximum, fixing 2013 calendar year instead of the financial year for implementation and appointing a one-man judicial commission with inclusion of stake holders to address anomalies are among the flaws in the government order, Major General Satbir said. “These flaws would lead to veterans losing one increment, seniors getting lesser pension and result in one rank many pensions,” he added.

Stating that they were not agitating for money, but for ethos, dignity and equality, he said the government notification was not fair and not acceptable, and the veterans’ fight for their rights would continue.

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The ‘anomalies’



  • Non-inclusion of futurepre-mature retirees in the ambit of OROP

  • Revision of pension once in five years instead of every year

  • Fixation of pension at the average of the minimum and maximum of the pay scale instead of the maximum

  • Fixing 2013 calendar year instead of the financial year for implementation

  • n Appointing a one-manjudicial commission with inclusion of stake holdersto address anomalies
    SOURCE :       http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/veterans-to-move-sc-over-govt-s-flawed-orop-orders/161754.html
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    • Ashok Jamwal  4 hours ago
      56 inch chest must have a minimum 18 inch heart and address veterans problems without giving way to personal egos. Soldiers do not work conditionally when ordered/given a task----they give 1005 to the nation with pride.
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          randeepmangat  Ashok Jamwal  3 hours ago
          Ashok ji, you think whatever is already given is not enough?
          Doesn't BSF also serve the nation with pride? They are being paid less than the army but they are not complaining (as yet)?
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              Ashok Jamwal  randeepmangat  2 hours ago
              Even you are serving-----you need to cover your back side--that is why Armies are required----without it you will be bound by what has happened to the country for last 1000 years.No service is suicidal except Armed Forces----You also fatten bali ka Bakra before killing it......take it in the right spirit----every citizen is contributing to the country----it is the degree of pers risk that is determining factor..Tell us one Govt service where you retire at age 35......Adjust these trained manpower in BSF/CRP or any govt service----they will not ask for anything and the country will be well served-----Why dont you pursue this fact----unless you have self serving ideas.
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              randeepmangat  4 hours ago
              Down with Greedy vets!!
              How are these greedy veterans different from lakhs of paramilitary forces, police & teachers who are providing equally important services to the country?
              There is a limit to the greed. Govt should immediately stop the recently annouced OROP as these thankless vets don't appreciate it anyways so why to put additonal load of 8000 crores on the country?
              Compare the benefits of these vets with other countries & they will realize they are already being given lots of benefits including subsidized ration, education for kids, servants etc. & 90% of them remain in peaceful areas all their life...
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                  aditya  randeepmangat  an hour ago
                  Hi Randeepmangat,
                  I am not sure,where did you get your data from on- "90% of them remaining in peaceful area for all their life" and comparing them with other countries. This is incorrect information. 
                  Also, there is nothing greedy about the Vets. They are asking for something that promised to them by the Parliament. It is based on Koshyari Committee report (a multi party committee - with no defence representation).
                  I will urge you to look at the authentic first hand information. I can help you connect with the people, who can share hard facts with you.
                  It is easy to get swayed by biased opinions. Military is our last line of defence, treat it with cautious approach.
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                      Ramakrishnan  randeepmangat  2 hours ago
                      Then why Army is being used for the job of police and CRPF/BSF, i.e., fighting the militants in Kashmir? It is because the task could not be carried out by them. The willingness to accept danger to life, that makes the difference. If Army is not fighting terrorists in Kashmir it would be another IS ruled Syria. In any case that danger (of IS in Kashmir) is likely to raise it's head soon - (in fact IS flags are already visible there). Let it be tackled by them then and see the results. Why use the Army and shower abuses on it from people like you.
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                          Ashok Jamwal  randeepmangat  2 hours ago
                          Dear, why not join this subdised service...train your kids to join---you may understand the ethos better then.
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                              sunil  randeepmangat  4 hours ago
                              You stupid, deploy all teachers( Most greedy ), police & other as you described for combat operation . their service period also to be as per defence rule, realy you are no 1 stupid ,making in-cognizant making remark .
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                                  randeepmangat  sunil  3 hours ago
                                  You idiot will surely be son of one of these greedy vets agitating at jantar mantar. I have many family members in armed forces & most of them agree that the vets 'still' agitating are a greedy lot. The intelligent vets are not with them. I have high regards for defense folks as they have always served with pride & dignity but they are losing in the eyes of a common man.
                                  Apart from Kashmir, what other combat operations army has dealt with recently? Infact paramilitary forces BSF, CRPF, ITBP etc have lost more men fighting with terrorists & they are often 1st line of defense. They deserve equal (if not better) perks than army. Based on this idiotic stir, others will follow suit & the burden will grow to lakhs of crores. We don't want a welfare nation. History shows welfare nations don't advance & get buried under their own weight.
                                  No one is doubting the service to the nation of these veterans but you cant put a price to it...
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